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Re: The Zeitgeist Movement

Unread postby Pretorian » Tue 31 Aug 2010, 17:58:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WurmD', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'W')hen all the hope and band aid is finally installed and in place, what will determine resource allocation

math :).

If society agrees that its major goal is survival of the species,



Why would somebody without kids or grandkids agree with it? Especially considering that long-term survival of the species is an oxymoron anyway.
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Re: The Zeitgeist Movement

Unread postby Rod_Cloutier » Tue 31 Aug 2010, 19:40:24

Something like this might have worked with a global population of a few tens of millions. Population currently sitting at 6.5 billion and rising, civilization is just waiting for collapse to occur.

If you were to line up every person on the planet, and only give a kiss to each lady and a handshake to each man, if you did nothing else 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 1/4 days a year, for the rest of your life- you could not meet them all. Even less likely that you could convince everyone everyplace to embrace this or that economic system.

The only reason I chose to reply to this thread is that today, while I was using a dirty public toilet, I was reading the bathroom graffiti on the wall. It actively encouraged everyone to become part of the Zeitgeist movement, to quote 'Free yourself from the bonds of working for money just to pay your debts, join now!'. Just goes to show how that movement has taken flight!
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Re: The Zeitgeist Movement

Unread postby Ludi » Tue 31 Aug 2010, 19:58:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Repent', ''')Free yourself from the bonds of working for money just to pay your debts, join now!



You don't need to join the Zeitgeist Movement, you could join the Gift or Sharing economy, Open Source Movement, or any of these other options. Zeitgiest seems to rely on increasing technological solutions, which, to be honest, I think are idiotic - like self-cleaning toilets. Clean your own damn toilet, for Pete's sake! It's not that frickin' hard! :roll: Or invent your own self-cleaning toilet. But the Zeitgeisters seem to be waiting around for Someone Else to solve these problems for them. Otherwise, we would see them posting in the Planning Forum telling us what they are DOING to prepare for the future. What are they DOING? Nothing, as far as I can tell. If I'm wrong, I hope they will post pictures of the things they are MAKING or DOING to bring about the way of life they prefer.
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Re: The Zeitgeist Movement

Unread postby americandream » Wed 01 Sep 2010, 06:06:18

Such endearing naivete. All we have to do as a species is agree, the rich and famous well fed along with the poor impoverished wretch, on a common plan to save us all. I can see it now. :)

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WurmD', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'W')hen all the hope and band aid is finally installed and in place, what will determine resource allocation

math :).

If society agrees that its major goal is survival of the species, and then goes on to agree that the best way to achieve such a goal is to be the most efficient and sustainable as possible, then.. there is only one, unique, optimum for the technical problem of food, water and energy production/distribution (given current technology). It becomes a optimization problem. Engineers today solve such optimizations when determining the best place for the next power plant, for one.
"Let's just do more of that" :)
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