[katkinkate]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('curiousxx', '.')...men owe women, at minimum, unqualified, impersonal courtesy and respect because ......

[Jake_old]

You are right of course Katkinkate, logically.

It is a feeling though, an emotional response to treat women with more respect than my fellow male. Logic isn't always what drives my actions and as it doesn't harm anybody I have no reason to change this behaviour.

I draw the line at showing animals respect on that level though! Holding a door open for a dog

Amazing.

Not that I believe in being cruel to animals you understand, well up to the point of eating them.

In Cambodia about 3 years ago, the president encouraged more people to eat dog because of the stray dog problem. Yuck. It stopped us going on holiday there.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('katkinkate', '
')One 'gentleman' at the busstop a few months ago, held back for me to get on the bus before him. When I didn't move fast enough he grouched, "Well, move it!" and then got on behind me grumping all the way down the aisle about how women expect men to open doors and let them on busses first ..grump, grump ... no respect... grump grump.

[Guest]

Every time I see the sort of crass and rude behaviour in London I always think of Margaret Thatcher's claim that - There is no such thing as society, just individuals.". I makes me hoot with laughter when I now hear politicians in the UK pontificate about a lack of 'respect' and declines in behavioural standards. In reality people are behaving in just the manner that the prevailing political and economic ideology has relentlessly trained them over the past 25 years. You reap what you sow.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Anonymous', 'I') always think of Margaret Thatcher's claim that - There is no such thing as society, just individuals."

[Guest]

It wasn't just Thatchers claim, it was what we the people wanted, we voted for that, we got the leader we deserved.

Just for the record I was too young to vote then, but there was no trickery, it wasn't spin, it was a choice.

A high tax, help the poor and weak, have good healthcare provision, subsidised public transport OR I'm all right jack screw the rest of ya.

We chose the latter.

Anyway..... a very good friend of mine has just had twins. They went through IVF and have been trying for years. They are over the moon.

They are acting like the opening excerpt from End of Suburbia, it really is a happy go spending world. New fridge, new car, new washing machine, new freezer. (I'm buying their old stuff )

I will not mention Peak Oil to any new parents, not even my very good freind and I am aware that this is selfish, I am doing the wrong thing.

I know if I were to talk to him about his spending habbit he would think that rude and none of my business. We all know how he will take the whole depletion and lifestyle talk, I will be his good crazy friend.

I really should say something, I can't look at him and think 'oh well, you screwed up!'. I grew up with this guy. Hes a good guy.

Hope some of you have some ideas, 'cause I've tried nothin, and I'm all out of ideas, to quote someones quotey thing.