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Re: Doomer documentary gets rave reviews at Toronto film fest

Unread postby Mesuge » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 10:53:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'D')ude, you are talking sound bites specifically engineered by Republican hit squads . Reverend Wright and Farrakhn will be lost in the fog of history along with Simmons, Hirsch, you or me. We are at the True End of History.


I do share your overall assessment of the situation. But I beg to differ on that one, perhaps in future generations terms like "Hirsch" and "Hubbert" will carry on some important message within the contemporary culture. I guess few years ago there was this novel linked in Energy Bulletin about post PO world, where the 2nd and 3rd generation of PO survivors were reffering to depleted stock (jam can) as "begin to hubbert" after it's half empty..
Something along these lines always happens after traumatic periods.

Hopefully, there won't be "mikehucakbee it" in the vocabulary for describing mushroom clouds and nuclear winter effects..
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Re: Doomer documentary gets rave reviews at Toronto film fest

Unread postby rangerone314 » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 12:05:37

I'm still waiting for the day when the President comes on national TV on all channels at 8pm on a Monday, and explains with charts, graphs and a simple explanation what peak oil is and that we are now in the midst of it and that we have only a short amount of time until a drastic run up on the price of oil.

Then President explains what is needed as a solution.

I will be waiting a long time.
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Re: Doomer documentary gets rave reviews at Toronto film fest

Unread postby jedrider » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 14:32:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')1) US Debt Doom
2) Global Warming Doom
3) Peak Oil Doom
4) Population Overshoot Doom


That's a 'nice' list :)

Reminds me of:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" is a term used to describe a concept from the New Testament of the Christian Bible, in chapter six of the Book of Revelation. Although scholars disagree as to what exactly each horseman represents, the four horsemen are often referred to as Conquest, War, Famine, and Death. They are part of an apocalyptic vision in which God summons and empowers them to wreck Divine havoc on the world. Each is revealed, individually, when the first four of seven seals are broken (opened) in Revelation.


Obviously, they are all important, although the first is merely a man-made method of accounting.

Debt-bomb = Conquest (financial conquest by the Chineese)
Peak-Oil = War (which is what it will bring)
Climate-Change = Famine (surely what it will bring as well)
Die-Off = That's an easy one (why Death)

Somehow, it is all a lot more digestible relating it to divine retribution rather than to the greed and short-sightedness of humans.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', ' ') Most people won't believe doom until they're living it.


Yep. I have never convinced anyone. I've also discovered, most people are not even all that curious.
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Re: Doomer documentary gets rave reviews at Toronto film fest

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 15:06:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedrider', '
')I've also discovered, most people are not even all that curious.


Which is why I created this guy as a punchingbag.

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It's therapeutic. ;)
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Re: Doomer documentary gets rave reviews at Toronto film fest

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 15:16:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')You do fine work. How many episodes are there?


Visit the channel page and look at the playlists. More than you can stand in one sitting. Maybe I should have submitted this to the Toronto film fest ;)

If you're wondering why he's so upset, this is what sent him over the edge. Suffice to say, he's got a McMansion heated by oil ;) This is where he got chewed out afterwards, and this is where he received further humiliation. Best to watch the scenes in playlist order without skipping around. It's hard to follow the plot otherwise.
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Re: Doomer documentary gets rave reviews at Toronto film fest

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 16:58:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '
')Then a plot developed, and they went to Lost Wages, and I got confused and bored, and changed channels. How about the Jets' defense :razz:


If you have a criticism, send a PM through youtube and I'll have my character include a personalized response to it during the intro to Episode 5. That's the way I wanted it to be. I wanted to have a kind of "dear abby" or "letters to the editor" thing going on between me and the viewers. Maybe even have polls to determine "who shot JR" and so on.

I was also thinking of putting up a "viewer's guide" to the show to try to help people know how to watch it without being confused. I'm really using the playlist feature as a poor-man's editor. And the annotate feature is a poor-man's CG titler. I'll eventually take this more seriously and do some real editing and post-production.

But to answer your critique, the first few clips stand on their own as vignettes, but it became really obvious early on that I can not do a show just about introducing doom to the office or it would run out of ideas in no time. I mean, how many times can you say ZOMBIE HORDES!!! There has to be some kind of larger plot structure. So it has become what it has become. Either you're going to get absorbed into this little VR universe or you're not. But it requires a strong commitment as a viewer.
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Re: Doomer documentary gets rave reviews at Toronto film fest

Unread postby Pretorian » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 18:53:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DoomWarrior', 'I')f enough of these doomer films make it into the mainstream perhaps some of the sheeple will actually WAKE UP.


Whats the point??Sheeple will remain sheeple, poor or not, hungry or well-fed, rightless or entitled. I thought Uruinimgina had set a decent proof of that. I guess people have a short memory.
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Re: Doomer documentary gets rave reviews at Toronto film fest

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 21 Sep 2009, 20:08:50

I got this one from Sharon Astyk's facebook feed.

The guy from the Post who talks about "Obama Socialist" and points to a bike rider as an environmentalist (environmentalist as an epithet) is even more of a caricature than the CG stiffs in my show. I'm telling you. Truth is stranger than fiction.
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Re: Doomer documentary gets rave reviews at Toronto film fest

Unread postby KevO » Fri 23 Oct 2009, 05:19:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hardtootell-2', 'D')o some people think voyeurism of the mentally ill is a form of entertainment? Mental illness is no joke. It is not something decent people find amusing. We are all susceptible, as are our friends and family. The degree of suffering it can bring is real and profound. Much of it is not very treatable.

On the other hand, accusing those with uncommon points of view with being "crazy" just to discredit them, that is pretty low and desperate-IMHO. If you have rational, fact based rebuttals, make them. Smear tactics should be beneath all of us.



So you get Big Brother on your televisions too?
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Movie: The "Collapse" Thread (merged)

Unread postby FreedomSlave » Sat 24 Oct 2009, 11:13:53

It will be released to theatres and to video on demand on Nov.6, 2009.

Enjoy! http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/collapse/
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Re: "CoLLapse" Trailer is out!

Unread postby shortonsense » Sat 24 Oct 2009, 11:27:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreedomSlave', 'I')t will be released to theatres and to video on demand on Nov.6, 2009. Enjoy! link
Quote: "Everything we said is coming true right now!!"

Amazing!! So, peak oil happened in 2000 rather than 2005 or 2008? Gold hit $2000/ounce already and we didn't notice it? The country disintergrated after Rita? The economy ended last March and just "shut down"? Shouldn't someone tell the 300 million people in this country that it has happened already and its only inertia keeping the planes in the air and the cars running?

The trailer I watched was pretty dramatic. Anyone interested in Mike's NEWEST claims of collapse should do the following immediately:

1) Send him some money for Novembers rent, he is short( :P ) and has asked for financial help ( again ). Details are listed here on the Oct 21 blog
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2) Review his other claims of collapse, many of which are chronicled right here at po.com link
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Re: "CoLLapse" Trailer is out!

Unread postby Dr. Ofellati » Sat 24 Oct 2009, 11:39:08

I read his book on . . . something. Was it crossing the Rubicon.

It was horrible. It was a ginormous hodge podge of quotes and citations without an appreciation for simply telling a tale.
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Re: "CoLLapse" Trailer is out!

Unread postby shortonsense » Sat 24 Oct 2009, 11:51:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dr. Ofellati', 'I') read his book on . . . something. Was it crossing the Rubicon. It was horrible. It was a ginormous hodge podge of quotes and citations without an appreciation for simply telling a tale.


I read the same book. It was a difficult read, in part I think because of the level of obfuscation necessary to hide the fact that random interesting facts do not a conspiracy make. Of course, when you base your argument on the inherent honesty of this guy link

well, it does beg the question, don't they teach basic lessons of who is credible, and who is not, to patrol cops? Mike received citations for his excellence as a patrol officer...maybe he's just overreaching when he puts on his "citizen-journalist" hat?
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Re: "CoLLapse" Trailer is out!

Unread postby Dr. Ofellati » Sat 24 Oct 2009, 15:36:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', 'w')ell, it does beg the question, don't they teach basic lessons of who is credible, and who is not, to patrol cops? Mike received citations for his excellence as a patrol officer...maybe he's just overreaching when he puts on his "citizen-journalist" hat?
Oh, there's no doubt 911 was an inside job - I just didn't like the book.
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Re: "CoLLapse" Trailer is out!

Unread postby eXpat » Sat 24 Oct 2009, 20:02:02

Link to the trailer in your tube trailer
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Re: "CoLLapse" Trailer is out!

Unread postby 3aidlillahi » Sun 25 Oct 2009, 09:08:43

Anybody notice that he uses a quote from "The Onion" during the trailer to promote his movie? It was near the end and said "You'll leave the theatre shaken". :lol:
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