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Long-term plan

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 10 Jun 2008, 10:54:32

Seeing how I live in da big city, I just can’t grasp how I’m gonna make it long-term.

Food stores √
Reduced debt √
Gas stock √
Bicycle √

This does nothing for long-term satiability once TSHTF.
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Re: Long-term plan

Unread postby RonMN » Tue 10 Jun 2008, 11:02:00

I think "long term" anything will be almost a thing of the past.

Farm land might bring you "longer term" stability, but it wont solve all problems.

IMO it's going to be a day to day strugle kind of thing, rather than a prep/save for a cushy retirement kind of thing.
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Re: Long-term plan

Unread postby charliebrownout » Tue 10 Jun 2008, 11:47:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'S')eeing how I live in da big city, I just can’t grasp how I’m gonna make it long-term.

Food stores √
Reduced debt √
Gas stock √
Bicycle √

This does nothing for long-term satiability once TSHTF.


On the bright side, I'm assuming, you don't live in the desert.

But, I here ya. My hubby and I have been discussing the fastest way to put away/earn/gather/whatever money to buy land and go elsewhere while also getting out of debt (good luck there).

Any way you slice it, when/if TSHTF it will be a mess even for those who saw it coming a little bit before. The people who have been planning for years and can live off the grid will fair the best, but, let's be honest...it won't be a cake walk for anyone...even the Amish will have issues if the SHTF.
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Re: Long-term plan

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Tue 10 Jun 2008, 13:24:58

Long term plans don't survive in the real world. There are too many variables. Will we go the way of Zimbabwe and Argentina? Will we end up in fascism or communism? Will we just simmer in a long depression, eking out an existence? Will we all be pressed into farm service, or will we be able to garden at home? Will people riot, or will they commit suicide? Will there be civil war, or will people come together?

Even from one neighborhood to another it might go differently. Even if you have a plan B through Z, and you might have to make up a new plan for something you never even considered.

I'm just learning as much as I can and getting my house in order as fast as I can.

I'm sure Pops will come in and plug his Plan thread soon. :)
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Re: Long-term plan

Unread postby hope_full » Tue 10 Jun 2008, 13:43:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ong term plans don't survive in the real world. There are too many variables. Will we go the way of Zimbabwe and Argentina? Will we end up in fascism or communism?


This is probably what troubles me the most. Hitler rose to power after WWI when hyperinflation (supposedly inspired by post-war repairation payments) brought the German economy to its knees. The German people quickly grew weary of wondering where their next meal was coming from and/or how would they pay for it?

That's how Hitler got his foothold. He brought promises of economic stability and even prosperity.

And that's (IMHO) the real danger of America slipping into a Peak-Oil depression. A charismatic leader could sweep us off our feet and promise food and economic stability and I fear we'd follow him/her like lambs to the slaughterhouse.

Worrisome.
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