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Re: Is there a PO cover-up?

Unread postby directinfo » Tue 13 Jun 2006, 09:45:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dhfenton', 'I')f there were a cover-up, it would have to be bi-partisan, and pervasive over many years. I don't have that much faith in Washington to believe they could be that organized.


First of all, the bi-partisian thing is itself a coverup. We have nothing more than a right boot and a left boot of the same elitist structure. Your vote is over trivial issues like gay sex and prayer in schools. Local or family issues brought up to the national level to distract you. Both left and right advance the weapons sales world wide and the internal printing presses which advance the debt money machine for the Federal Reserve, a privately owned and foreign owned, untaxed and un audited central bank.

Get that clear and everything else kinda falls into place. Heck, there is even a movie coming out about this so everyone and their brother will soon be clued in... kinda like after "End of Suburbia" effect on Peak Oil! Cool.

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Well, is it really possible to credit Washington with so much unorganized non-coverups?

We in the USA are responsible for spraying depleted uranium by the thousands of tons. Admittedly, this is a radioactive WMD that we are using to effectively kill-off loads of random people all over the planet, including in Iraq esepcially. Do a word search "du+iraq" It is a big mess, with unprecedented multiple cancers in people in the area, lots of birth defects of a kind unseen in history. This is a 4.5 billion year "forever killer". The VA is covering it up. The WHO is covering it up. The US mass media are covering it up. The US politicans and military leaders are covering it up.

But how can that happen? The guy who literally "wrote the book" on du cleanup is du radiated. His name is Major Doug Rokke and he lost most of his team to du. He is out there as a vocal whistle blower and nobody will listen. It is a cover up.

Half of Iraq War I veterans are sick or disabled permanently. They are on permanent disability. How is that possible if only about 2 of them died in the war? DU. Guld War illness! Coverup.

Coverup is the nature of the beast we have in America.

Every heard of Bilderberg group? It is just one arm of the globalist effort. Ever wonder how 100 of the most powerful leaders can meet in a secluded location in a small city somewhere in Europe or the US or Canada and not a peep from media about it?

Coverup.

It used to be called "conspiracy theory" just to think that such a thing as Bilderberg existed. Now, of course, like Peak Oil, the obviousness is leaked out all over the place so people just poo-poo it like it is some harmless little secret club that meets and discusses things in private over a series of days... but they don't set policy in secret... no... that would be impossible!

Just imopossible to assume coverup.

Well, kinda hard to coverup the effects of du:

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And Here
And here too

The proof is literally falling like Niagara Falls, and nobody wants to touch it.

What shall we call it?

The magic bullet theory with Kennedy was a nice one too, not much to investigate there. Lone madman gets killed, used a magic bullet.

The document PNAC is a nice one too. It basically called for a war in Iraq in order to advance the New World Order. No conspiracy there. JJust a document penned by Bush Admin officials, who benefit directly from no-bid contracts. Coverup? Not a chance. Everything is on the up and up there.

And don't get me started on the illegal central bank called the Federal Reserve system, untaxed, unaudited and foreign owned. Coverup of facts? Fiat currency confetti everywhere poised to crash debased from gold? Ha... that is a riot.

Washington is coverup. We might as well rename our capital city to coverup.

You guys are something else!

Black box electonic voting machines owned by former CIA higher ups? Coverup?

How about the way American bodies are counted in the Iraq war? Ship em to Germany... if they die there of their Iraq wounds, well, that don't count. Is that not being a big shady?

I could go on and on, but lucky for me I don't have to. The argument whether our government is not the most corrupt in history is answered by the maxim regarding power.

But if you don't believe "power corrupts" that is fine. But before heading back to Disney world, you might want to have a listen to regular-guy Iraq Vet Patriot John Marshall and see what he thinks about the whole idea.regular-guy Iraq Vet and Patriot John Marshall
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Re: Is there a PO cover-up?

Unread postby JustinFrankl » Tue 13 Jun 2006, 09:55:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Geko45', 'S')o, what color IS the boathouse at Hereford?

How the f*ck should I know?

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Re: Is there a PO cover-up?

Unread postby Geko45 » Tue 13 Jun 2006, 10:02:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hereford', 'I') appreciate all the replys to this post. A few more details - I live in Houston, and work as a software developer in the oil exploration industry ... we're very dependent on big oil.

Cool! Another native Houstonian! And a fellow IT professional as well! I work up in The Woodlands for a GIS company. I have two Dell servers sitting in the hall outside my office waiting to be set up. Our application is a vehicle routing system designed to save large corporations fuel, time and money by finding the most efficient routes.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ouston is booming right now.

And it's about time!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s a side note - there's a large section of freeway that is being expanded from 10 lanes to something like 26 lanes.

Ughh, I know! I have to drive through that mess every Monday on the way to class. I'm going to Belhaven on the west side which is at I-10 and Highway 6.
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Re: Is there a PO cover-up?

Unread postby ashurbanipal » Tue 13 Jun 2006, 10:52:07

Of course there's a cover up. Just take a look at the news on any given evening.

I don't think there's an attempt at a complete cover-up (i.e. the FBI isn't sending people over to kill Matt Simmons and confiscate his papers). But there's definitely an attempt at mis-information.
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Re: Is there a PO cover-up?

Unread postby aflurry » Tue 13 Jun 2006, 13:39:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '
')As for myself, I post here mostly because I enjoy annoying lefties;


yes, this seems to be a philosophical cornerstone of the great conservative project.

it really does speak to the soul of man.
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Re: Is there a PO cover-up?

Unread postby rwwff » Tue 13 Jun 2006, 18:48:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aflurry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', '
')As for myself, I post here mostly because I enjoy annoying lefties;

yes, this seems to be a philosophical cornerstone of the great conservative project.
it really does speak to the soul of man.


Nah, but it is good for some laughs.

I mean, really, I'm having a hard time of even imagining a more tailor made fact set for the advancement of the neoconservative agenda than Peak Oil. At least with global warming the left can half heartedly assert that it is possible to avert or mitigate the worst impacts; with Peak Oil you don't even have that, when supply really starts to slip and push down demand, the cornerstone of the PO argument is that this will cause economic collapse. If that is the case, then it is not only worth 2,000 lives, or 20,000 lives; but to be blunt, its worth 200,000 combat deaths to get out there and secure US/Chinese access to oil for the next couple decades. While on the home front, tax cuts for the "rich" help offset the coming economic damage of Peak Oil by assisting businesses in the purchase of hard assets which will likely be much more expense after the economic destabilization and monitization.

I'm not sure what the point of "cover up" would be; other than the type of cover up that is designed to be "found, and exposed as truth". I suppose, if I didn't love the sport so much more than I cared about the outcome of the elections, I'd be motivated to keep my mouth shut, or at most, go with the PO talking points.

I could just hear the 2012 rhetoric, <b>"We feel the coming dangers presented by the end of cheap energy. We must never surrender, we must struggle to the end to promote the American Way of Life (tm). Do you want to join those who would say, turn off your heaters, throw away your car keys, we can do nothing in the face of such powers as the Greater Second Islamic Empire? I say NO, NO we will not bow before these charlatans and extortionists; we will not offer tribute to such a nation. We must defend our interest. We must go forth and end the economic terrorism that they threaten to bring to our shores! I tell you this, nothing save victory shall ever be acceptible in the face of these coming trials!!"</b>
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Re: Is there a PO cover-up?

Unread postby evilgenius » Wed 14 Jun 2006, 06:52:02

The only cover-up is in the lack of publicity. This Administration doesn't explain itself no matter what it is up to. Sure they have their cast of pundits from Bill O'Reilly to Ann Coulter, but those people generally work from an emotional perspective. the convincers and apologizers for the Bush Administration largely do not explain their reasoning. It is left to the individual to put the pieces together. As long as you interpret the English language the way that the Bush crowd does it is always possible to put the dread arguments together after the fact. The news media won't ask them what they mean when they say certain things, however, and the Bush people certainly won't volunteer.

When TSHTF they will be able to point to their past statements and say, "see, we addressed this here and that there." It will look clear afterward. It doesn't look clear now.
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Re: Is there a PO cover-up?

Unread postby PrairieMule » Wed 14 Jun 2006, 12:29:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hereford', '
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At any rate ... onto my real question: is our (U.S) government somehow trying to cover-up the reality of peak-oil? Are they using arguments such as Iran, Iraq, hurricanes, global markets, etc. to cover-up the reality, or are they not really aware of the state we are in?


Cover up? Maybe.. I definitely think the goverment is keeping a low profile about it. How do you explain peakoil to 200 million impatient consumers the priorites of american dream will radically be altered in the next 5-10 years? Yeah I think they are aware.

I'm to the point where I am through fretting about it. Now I just get ready one day at a time.
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