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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 02 Jun 2007, 16:52:59

I know you have researched the criminality of American Corporations and the US government. My feeling is that this is a worldwide thing. Americans are just playing the game as it was determined many generations ago. Peak Oil will wipe this disgusting plate clean. Too bad so many of us will die in the process.

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Unread postby threadbear » Sat 02 Jun 2007, 19:15:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I') know you have researched the criminality of American Corporations and the US government. My feeling is that this is a worldwide thing. Americans are just playing the game as it was determined many generations ago. Peak Oil will wipe this disgusting plate clean. Too bad so many of us will die in the process.

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PMS, I'll read the link this evening. But--just to set the record straight, America bashing is great sport these days, but's it's in response to decades of triumphalism, and the incessant heart beating message of moral superiority. The American organized crime/govt has nothing on the failed Communist system--so don't get me wrong! :)
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 02 Jun 2007, 19:53:06

It's tempting to think of Anglos-Saxons as the rapers of North America. But it wasn't anglos that killed the Plains Indians. It was tuberculosis. When the settlers arrived the plains were empty. Tuberculosis killed them all and left the great plains empty. That disease is making a comeback. It won't be long now before that disease is etched into modern consciousness as it was in the past. A gruesome wasting disease that killed so many lights of the past.
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Unread postby TWilliam » Mon 04 Jun 2007, 04:20:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I')t's tempting to think of Anglos-Saxons as the rapers of North America. But it wasn't anglos that killed the Plains Indians. It was tuberculosis. When the settlers arrived the plains were empty. Tuberculosis killed them all and left the great plains empty. That disease is making a comeback. It won't be long now before that disease is etched into modern consciousness as it was in the past. A gruesome wasting disease that killed so many lights of the past.


I believe what you meant to say was smallpox [EDIT and hepatitis, and maybe even a number of other European diseases for which they had no immunity]. For background if you're interested try 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus by Charles C. Mann...
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Unread postby shakespear1 » Mon 04 Jun 2007, 05:53:12

Wasn't there some use of "specially treated" blankets for the Indians which helped in thinning out the Indian population ? 8)
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Unread postby TWilliam » Mon 04 Jun 2007, 13:21:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shakespear1', 'W')asn't there some use of "specially treated" blankets for the Indians which helped in thinning out the Indian population ? 8)


There is some evidence that suggests this tactic was used by Sir Jeffrey Amherst, commander of the British forces, in the 1750s during the French and Indian War. However evidence continues to be brought to light that indicates that upwards of 90% of the native populations of the Americas had already been eradicated by repeated smallpox and other epidemics, contracted from Spanish and French explorers long before the British colonists ever arrived here.
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