[deMolay]

Not left or right. Global corporatism. Multinational control: link

[Ainan]

Watching it right now. Nothing I didn't already know, America is a doomed nation in a doomed world.

[Sixstrings]

I watched another of their videos the other day.. at the end they mention their website and a "special report" they offer about the best suppliers of gold and silver bullion. So they have a financial interest here as well, they want to scare you then sell you something. It's really kind of ironic, it's like saying "I'm going to tell you how everyone's been robbing you blind and oh, then I'm gonna sell you some gold or #10 cans or my latest crash course and maybe a doom novel while I'm at it."

Having said that, the videos are pretty good. But since they're offering gold I'd take their gold analysis with a grain of salt.. the real truth is that right now we're in deflation. Inflation will come at some point, but the current run-up in gold is a bubble that could pop just like the oil bubble did.

[Cloud9]

This from the Market Oracle

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article15372.html

The system is going to break. The ability of Washington to send out checks to everybody to whom it promised checks is going to fail. The checks will not be sent out, or else they will not be for money that will buy much. The Federal government is going to default in some form. I believe that it is likely to default by raising taxes on existing workers and simultaneously cutting benefits to beneficiaries. This may be cuts in the income of existing beneficiaries, of whom I am an obvious case, or it may be a delay of the advent of the benefits to those who been promised the benefits. The retirement age for Social Security may be raised, or perhaps there will be some system of means-testing for Medicare recipients. But, in some form, there is going to be a default.
We are on the cusp of a political transformation. The technology is on our side. The communications system is on our side. Articulate and even inarticulate critics of the existing political system have the ability to spread their message of discontent as never before in the history of man. The fundamental political fact of our era is an escalating crisis in legitimacy for the Establishment.
As the crisis of the economy becomes more obvious to more people, and as it becomes obvious that the government and the central bank are unable to reverse the effects of the previous Keynesian policies, the public is going to withdraw legitimacy from the central government.
No one has a comprehensive plan to reform the system. This is a good thing. The system is too complex. The whole idea of Hayek's spontaneous order is that no central-planning agency can assemble the information necessary to plan. No system of sanctions could enforce it anyway.
To do this, we have to begin to develop alternatives that can be used to substitute for the shutdown of each government boondoggle. We can't expect to beat something with nothing. Our job is to criticize existing system, but it is also to encourage the development of privately funded alternatives.
We are seeing the crisis of legitimacy at exactly the time that we are seeing a crisis of the economic system. The main justification for the expansion of government power has not been the spread of democracy, or the spread of the American way of life, but rather the predictable expansion of the economy year after year. Economic growth has been the holy grail of every Keynesian government in the world. It has also been the holy grail of every socialist government in the world. This goal is now being called into question by the fiscal and monetary policies that the Keynesians have imposed on the public, all in the name of higher per capita income. The unemployment rate keeps going up. This is the soft underbelly of every incumbent government.

Here is my slogan for political reform: Replacement, not capture; then de-funding.
Let us take this slogan and begin to apply it to all the government institutions that we deal with on a regular basis. Apply it especially to the Federal government.
Overnight political revolutions always centralize power. That is what Frederick Engels taught, and that is what I believe. What I believe is best for the country is a quiet social revolution, which is marked by a shift of reliance away from all government money toward free-market and charitable funding. We will simply walk away from the system. When enough people walk away from the system, and the rest of them lose their shirts when the system goes belly-up, we will be in a position to have a real revolution, one in favor of freedom.
This revolution will be one of decentralization and some form of operational secession. I don't think states are actually going to break away from the union. I believe that the governors and mayors are not going to bother to get Federal grants, because the money is either not available or won't buy anything. When we get to that stage, we will be prepared for a new period of liberty. That day is coming. The government has shot his wad, and the Federal Reserve, in shooting whatever wad it has left, is going to debase the currency.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', ' ')we will be prepared for a new period of liberty.

[Cloud9]

The reasons for the almighty central government are slipping away. Slavery has ended. The Union has been preserved. Nazism has been defeated. Communism has been defeated. The civil rights movement has won. The far right wing conspiracy has failed to materialize. The war on terror has lost its direction. The central planners have failed in their plans.

The current system is too large and too complex to control. There are too many unknown variables to consider. Every action taken by the centralized authorities has unintended consequences. The central bankers have collapsed the economy. The bureaucrats have bloated the bureaucracy and bankrupted the society.

The bureaucrats are going to have to choose between securing their own salaries and their own pension plans and providing the services they were hired to provide. Something is going to give. Self interest is always served.

Since we have been too weak to starve the beast, the beast is going to starve itself. It is consuming every available resource. When that happens, the system dies.

We are like a man with a gangrenous leg. We either cut it off or we die.

Our problems may be national and international, but our solutions are local.

[deMolay]

Very good Cloud9. But your thesis is not born out by history or reality. Until the Leviathan is actually dead. And as long as it is able to project power over people at a cost less than they take in, the Floggings will continue until morale improves.

[Daniel_Plainview]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', '[')b]Since we have been too weak to starve the beast, the beast is going to starve itself.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'U')ntil the Leviathan is actually dead. And as long as it is able to project power over people at a cost less than they take in, the Floggings will continue until morale improves.

[deMolay]

Where do you get bible thumping from my post Moses6507, oh yah the great conspiracy.

[Cloud9]

It appears that climate, lasciviousness, and barbarian hordes bankrupted and thereby ended Rome.

We face the same three specters. The current government rules through the carrot and the stick. When the carrots run out, there is nothing left but the stick.

The Government cannot secure our borders much less protect us. When there is nothing left but the stick, the stick will be broken.

[timmac]

Where can one buy this in a DVD ??

[deMolay]

If you ever see a book called "The Sovereign Individual" in there it talks a great deal about how governments first formed. And how as the cost of projecting power over territory and people reaches a point were it is unsustainable the beast or Leviathan finally crumbles. But even in its death throes it is still dangerous.