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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby roccman » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 14:13:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'T')his is just so sweet. And that is all I have to say about that. :)

As to my "expert" status? Over 15,000 hours of flying experience, both military and commercial. Almost 2,000 hours of tactical military flying. Experience in both military and civilian aircraft accident investigation. And on top of all this, I'm sitting in the middle of one of the largest sectors of our economy which has already been greatly impacted by the onset of PO problems.

Interesting concept Aaron, and I applaud it. Seems you have chosen folks on all sides of several issues and it makes it all the more credible.

Expecting incoming. :-D


The lint stuck in my ass crack has more "expertness" than all your time in the COCKpit of assery you claim.
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby Plantagenet » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 14:15:55

Congrats on your expert rating, AirplanePilot! [smilie=adora.gif]
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby davep » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 14:18:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'T')his is just so sweet. And that is all I have to say about that. :)

As to my "expert" status? Over 15,000 hours of flying experience, both military and commercial. Almost 2,000 hours of tactical military flying. Experience in both military and civilian aircraft accident investigation. And on top of all this, I'm sitting in the middle of one of the largest sectors of our economy which has already been greatly impacted by the onset of PO problems.

Interesting concept Aaron, and I applaud it. Seems you have chosen folks on all sides of several issues and it makes it all the more credible.

Expecting incoming. :-D


The lint stuck in my ass crack has more "expertness" than all your time in the COCKpit of assery you claim.


That's uncalled for. Don't take it so personally (you'll make mod one day!). I guess his experience is relevant to 911 discussions, I just don't see the relevance to PO in general.
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 14:20:26

I don't really care for the label expert but really, does it matter?

If you don't like it, ignore it. Just like letters after someone's name in the real world, sometimes it means something, sometimes it doesn't.

Add what you have to say to the forum and take away what you can, when you can.

Lets remember why we are here. Some people who have the label I can see why, others applications confuse me, doesn't change the fact that I am here to learn and, on those rare occasions that I have something to add, say it.

If we ever have the title "philosopher king" (or queen), I would be struck with envy and have to fight for it.
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby roccman » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 14:22:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AirlinePilot', 'T')his is just so sweet. And that is all I have to say about that. :)

As to my "expert" status? Over 15,000 hours of flying experience, both military and commercial. Almost 2,000 hours of tactical military flying. Experience in both military and civilian aircraft accident investigation. And on top of all this, I'm sitting in the middle of one of the largest sectors of our economy which has already been greatly impacted by the onset of PO problems.

Interesting concept Aaron, and I applaud it. Seems you have chosen folks on all sides of several issues and it makes it all the more credible.

Expecting incoming. :-D


The lint stuck in my ass crack has more "expertness" than all your time in the COCKpit of assery you claim.


That's uncalled for. Don't take it so personally (you'll make mod one day!). I guess his experience is relevant to 911 discussions, I just don't see the relevance to PO in general.


It's not personal...just bullshit.

AP of all people should know 911 was an inside job, but because he is a tool he sold his countrymen out.
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby Kingcoal » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 14:48:19

I'm honored to wear the badge. I don't think I deserve it, but that's because I've been around long enough to remember the very intense, in depth discussions which were common in the early days of this board. Back then, you had to have your post well thought out and to the point or Montequest, among other big guns, would rip you to shreds. Everything was put under a microscope and thoroughly dissected. I was a dry sponge, just soaking it up for a long time.

I think that Aaron wants to get back to that level of discussion we had back then.
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby roccman » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 15:57:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', 'I')'m honored to wear the badge. I don't think I deserve it, but that's because I've been around long enough to remember the very intense, in depth discussions which were common in the early days of this board. Back then, you had to have your post well thought out and to the point or Montequest, among other big guns, would rip you to shreds. Everything was put under a microscope and thoroughly dissected. I was a dry sponge, just soaking it up for a long time.

I think that Aaron wants to get back to that level of discussion we had back then.


Hello Kingcoal,

I may have this wrong, but it appears red badges of courage have been handed out to those "veterans" of PO.

But then some "vets' have not received "the expert" mark...

Beside time in service...what are you an expert of? AP has weighed in and his job as an airline pilot seems to have done the trick.

Please understand I am not looking for a fight...just curious.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby Pops » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 16:01:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '[')Pops is] probably more of a moth-eaten sage though

I like it!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('someone', 'A')P...9/11...inside job

I wondered what the crap I have been hearing about AP is coming from, guess I should have known…
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby jbeckton » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 16:16:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '
')But when newbies show up they see expert and may think "hey this guy knows what he is talking about"...


When I showed up, I saw that pstarr had thousands of posts and thought he must know what he was talking about. However, a quick conversation proved otherwise.

If a person sees expert, and takes everything they say as fact w/o thinking themselves, the future for them probably wasn't too bright anyways.

I think this is just a kudos for people that contribute valuable information to the board on a regular basis.
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby roccman » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 16:24:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jbeckton', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '
')But when newbies show up they see expert and may think "hey this guy knows what he is talking about"...


When I showed up, I saw that pstarr had thousands of posts and thought he must know what he was talking about. However, a quick conversation proved otherwise.

If a person sees expert, and takes everything they say as fact w/o thinking themselves, the future for them probably wasn't too bright anyways.

I think this is just a kudos for people that contribute valuable information to the board on a regular basis.


Yes - I agree JB.

The title expert means nothing here except time in service (that is posted by the poster's name) and number of posts (that is also posted by the poster's name).

I admit I over reacted...I actually thought it meant something.
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby WisJim » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 16:26:18

I think that an "expert" ranking or designation should be by acclaim of all other PO posters--if most of us feel someone is an "expert", and no one has a good argument against it, then maybe they really are an "expert". Otherwise, isn't an expert someone with a briefcase who is over 50 miles from home?
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby Pops » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 16:45:37

Since this seems to be turning serious, I will agree with the folks who say badges are misleading and in fact lend an unfair weight to the folks posting under them regardless of their posted credentials.

I have mentioned the Barney Fife Syndrome we have experienced here at times to several members and will warn of it again.

I am an expert at nothing and in fact Elite is not a complement in my mind.


Perhaps Respected, Informed, Contributor or some such as voted by the Members; if anything?
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby roccman » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 16:56:47

Well the poll suggest that it is bullshit.

I agree pops...contributor...mitigator...referee etc.

I dialed PO.com up in July 2004 - because I was in bed with a broken back and on morphine (and every time I moved my lap top it shut off)...I elected not to join.

I have read this site on and off for years...and probably have followed a wider path of overshoot, dieoff, PO, global warming, NWO, etc then most here...

Do I think I am an expert?

At what I get paid to do...yes...PO, overshoot, GW, GD, etc...hell no...

People like AP need a title...they are insecure and not very well informed outside of their closed bubble.

I am a lille shocked that Threadbear would want this title...just seems to go against the grain of her essense.

Oh well - so it goes.
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby lateStarter » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 17:04:29

Hmm... So now everyone is focused on expert/elite status! Where have I seen this kind of 'distraction' before?

While I have to admit that various folks here certainly qualify for titles like 'elder' and 'sage' (and possibly 'prolific', 'pedantic', and 'blowhard') and others obviously have expertise in their field, titles like 'elite' and 'expert' are divisive and counter-productive.

Will PO.COM soon start to label others as 'village idiot' or 'twit'?

OTOH, I accept the fact that soon this too will pass and we will continue on.. This is starting to vaguely feel like some sort of video game that I have stumbled upon and even though I don't know all the rules, I proceed nonetheless....
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby Kingcoal » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 17:09:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'W')ell the poll suggest that it is bullshit.

I agree pops...contributor...mitigator...referee etc.

I dialed PO.com up in July 2004 - because I was in bed with a broken back and on morphine (and every time I moved my lap top it shut off)...I elected not to join.

I have read this site on and off for years...and probably have followed a wider path of overshoot, dieoff, PO, global warming, NWO, etc then most here...

Do I think I am an expert?

At what I get paid to do...yes...PO, overshoot, GW, GD, etc...hell no...

People like AP need a title...they are insecure and not very well informed outside of their closed bubble.

I am a lille shocked that Threadbear would want this title...just seems to go against the grain of her essense.

Oh well - so it goes.


Well if it would make you shut up, I'd forfeit my badge to you so you can wear it to school on your lapel for all the other kids to see. But I doubt if that would pacify you so I'll hang on to it as long as I'm deemed worthy.
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby threadbear » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 17:09:48

Experts! Perhaps those who choose to argue with them should be given the purple heart for bravery?
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby roccman » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 17:16:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'W')ell the poll suggest that it is bullshit.

I agree pops...contributor...mitigator...referee etc.

I dialed PO.com up in July 2004 - because I was in bed with a broken back and on morphine (and every time I moved my lap top it shut off)...I elected not to join.

I have read this site on and off for years...and probably have followed a wider path of overshoot, dieoff, PO, global warming, NWO, etc then most here...

Do I think I am an expert?

At what I get paid to do...yes...PO, overshoot, GW, GD, etc...hell no...

People like AP need a title...they are insecure and not very well informed outside of their closed bubble.

I am a lille shocked that Threadbear would want this title...just seems to go against the grain of her essense.

Oh well - so it goes.


Well if it would make you shut up, I'd forfeit my badge to you so you can wear it to school on your lapel for all the other kids to see. But I doubt if that would pacify you so I'll hang on to it as long as I'm deemed worthy.


Oh ok - I ask nicely - and you respond this way.

That's what I thought...you sir...are not an expert.

In fact punk comes to mind.
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby Carlhole » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 17:16:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateStarter', 'H')mm... So now everyone is focused on expert/elite status! Where have I seen this kind of 'distraction' before?

While I have to admit that various folks here certainly qualify for titles like 'elder' and 'sage' (and possibly 'prolific', 'pedantic', and 'blowhard') and others obviously have expertise in their field, titles like 'elite' and 'expert' are divisive and counter-productive.

Will PO.COM soon start to label others as 'village idiot' or 'twit'?


That is an EXCELLENT idea!!

Let's say a PO member could vote once per month on other posters' respectability/credibility/wisdom.

Personally, I think my little PeakOil.com crest makes my avatar look like a modern commercial icon for "Flaming Black A**hole, Inc.", if there were such an outfit.

...and I'm neither black nor incorporated! :lol:
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby Pops » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 17:17:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateStarter', 'H')mm... So now everyone is focused on expert/elite status!

Yea, it does seemkind of a funny thing to talk about going into winter.

I guess we are pretty accustomed to having things easy, huh?
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Re: "Expert" Members at PO.com

Unread postby roccman » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 17:18:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'E')xperts! Perhaps those who choose to argue with them should be given the purple heart for bravery?


Does not take much bravery to go up against most "experts" here...you threadbear are the exception.
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