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Earth at Night: The Natural Gas Burn-off

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Re: Earth at Night: The Natural Gas Burn-off

Unread postby MonteQuest » Tue 21 Feb 2006, 12:50:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Epyx', 'S')o what you're saying is that Natural Gas is the answer?


Not at all, Just posting an article that pertains to the thread topic. I do think that efforts will be maded to utilize NG in this way, but is it a solution?

No, only a small mitigation possibility.
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Re: Earth at Night: The Natural Gas Burn-off

Unread postby grabby » Tue 21 Feb 2006, 16:57:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'T')his map is a must see! More than 100 billion cubic meters are burned off annually, ... enough to power France and Germany for a year. Oil companies searching for oil regularly burn off the gas and consider it worthless unless it can be transported. It appears that 80 percent of the world's reserves lack pipelines to transport it to consumers. Sounds like a lot of pipeline building to me. Is this "big oil's " back up plan?


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This is true,

but you don't realy understand what it means:

take alook at this.

1,400 cubic meters = 16 barrels
1,400,000 cubbic meters = 1,600 barrels
1,400,000,000 cubic meters = 1,600,000 barrels
100,400,000,000 cubic meters = 160,000,000 barrels per year


that is equivalent of 491,000 barrels per day.

Or as much as Grand coulee dam output.

It would be nice to save it and use it, but it is about 1 % of USA uses.

now that is a lot of energy.

If this 1 percent actually can supply both france and germany for a year as stated above, then of course, our yearly use of oil can then run france and germany for about 100 years.

or our our yearly useage needs would supply 200 frances or 200 Germanys or france or germany could run hundreds of years while ...america can run 10 years. So basically without america there would be no oil crisis in our lifetimes. With america, that is shortened.

So if this is their backup plan and they build pipe everywhere in the whole world and bring it to market, it will lengthen the oil crises from lets say 10 years to 10 years and one month.
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Re: Earth at Night: The Natural Gas Burn-off

Unread postby MonteQuest » Tue 21 Feb 2006, 19:00:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('grabby', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'T')his map is a must see! More than 100 billion cubic meters are burned off annually, ... enough to power France and Germany for a year. Oil companies searching for oil regularly burn off the gas and consider it worthless unless it can be transported. It appears that 80 percent of the world's reserves lack pipelines to transport it to consumers. Sounds like a lot of pipeline building to me. Is this "big oil's " back up plan?


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This is true, but you don't realy understand what it means:


Sure I do. It is a pittance. Maybe I should have put this smiley after :

Is this "big oil's " back up plan? :roll:
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Unread postby Ludi » Tue 21 Feb 2006, 21:44:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', ' ')Whatever solutions we come up with must be focused on decentralization of energy production and point of use applicable to the available local energy. In some places direct heating of water by solar would make the most sense rather than natural gas.


And of course there is the "Manure-powered Utopia" option of small scale methane digesters. We all have to poop, and this is a way of making a complete circle from pooping to cooking. Methane digesters are extremely easy to make and inexpensive.

But by advocating this solution I prove I am as evil as Pol Pot.
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Re: Earth at Night: The Natural Gas Burn-off

Unread postby grabby » Wed 22 Feb 2006, 02:53:05

phart power.

This is the new technology that will save us from the arabs.
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