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Re: Daughter Scoffs at Doomerism

Unread postby Pops » Sun 19 Oct 2008, 20:52:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '.')..it was just me and the Adventure Girl chatting away.

Best you can do at this stage aside from worry I guess.

Good luck to her on her adventures, we all need 'em, I'm thinking...
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Re: Daughter Scoffs at Doomerism

Unread postby Narz » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 02:46:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')aughter Scoffs at Doomerism

Good for her. :)

What exactly is dangerous about Finland? What exactly are you scared will happen to her?

Sounds like she's being rational. Likely you would have told her not to go six months ago too (and she would have been fine).
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Re: Daughter Scoffs at Doomerism

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 09:49:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', ' ')Likely you would have told her not to go six months ago too
No. I wouldn't, nor did I when she went to Germany even though I knew about peak oil. Things are quite different now which you should know if you were paying any attention.
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Re: Daughter Scoffs at Doomerism

Unread postby dinopello » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 10:07:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', ' ')But I'm such a worry-wort.

Yes, you are. But, you are entitled since you are her father. I worry about others more than myself too, but have no kids. My brother has a business trip to Belgium in a few weeks, my sister leaves for vacation in Puerto Rico with her whole family and a good friend (also a 27 yo woman) is leaving for a 2 month trip to Africa in December. I'm worried about all of them to some degree, but more than likely they will all be just fine as will your daughter. It's more dangerous driving to the airport.
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Re: Daughter Scoffs at Doomerism

Unread postby Narz » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 14:11:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'N')o. I wouldn't, nor did I when she went to Germany even though I knew about peak oil. Things are quite different now which you should know if you were paying any attention.

Yes. Now the most severe effects peak oil are delayed for at least four or five years. :)

And you didn't answer my question, what makes Finland more dangerous than San Diego?
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Re: Daughter Scoffs at Doomerism

Unread postby Nicholai » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 16:16:20

I'll be in Finland in a little while...after I've gotten the visa stuff worked out. I'll be travelling around looking for a hot girlfriend :D

Maybe I could grab a coffee with your daughter and change her mind...jk

Finland will be alright post peak. A small history of starvation but nothing like Bangladesh or Ethiopia...
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Re: Daughter Scoffs at Doomerism

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 22:09:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'A')nd you didn't answer my question, what makes Finland more dangerous than San Diego?

I didn't say that Finland is more dangerous than San Diego. Just that this is a dangerous time to travel. But what the heck. Finland is right next to the Baltic States and Russia. They are all in deep trouble right now. There's trouble brewing everywhere. If these financial 'rescue' plans don't work then all hell could break loose soon. Maybe they will work and we'll have some calm times ahead. Maybe they won't. Nobody knows but things have gotten very dicey in just the past few weeks. That good enough for you, narz?
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Re: Daughter Scoffs at Doomerism

Unread postby Narz » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 23:27:15

Yup, thanks for engaging me PMS. I wish your daughter safe travels.

If you want, should TSNHTF in the next 12 months, I'll send you guys some heirloom seeds from next summer's garden next fall (after harvest). It'd be an honor to give you & your fam some fresh food to supplement all the dried bulk stuff. :)
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Re: Daughter Scoffs at Doomerism

Unread postby Koyaanisqatsi » Tue 21 Oct 2008, 02:32:49

I don't get you people who dismiss the possibility of a very rapid collapse. If foreign investors get spooked there could be a run on the dollar in short order. Or if the commercial paper market freezes, as it almost did already... Or if there is a well-placed terrorist incident... It's the nature of bank crashes that they can unfold very rapidly, like chains of dominoes, especially in this globalized, electronically-linked world. PMS is right to be concerned.

I'm not predicting that it's going to happen, but it's possible. Very possible.

Some soft-core fast-crash doomer porn for your viewing pleasure:

The Day the Dollar Fell
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Re: Daughter Scoffs at Doomerism

Unread postby Koyaanisqatsi » Thu 23 Oct 2008, 03:16:07

"You may have a chain reaction we never imagined before."

Nicholas Taleb (Black Swan author) on PBS
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