[nwildmand]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil4u', 'T')he Koran backs up any claim I made. I'd suggest you read it, without a jaundiced eye. Example: Mohammed was married to a child = Paedophile.

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nwildmand', 'o')h my fucking god. you just defended child rape.

[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil4u', 'Y')ou have a typical Dhimmi attitude. Always making excuses apologizing for them. It must be our fault. Something we did. Remember they are MUSLIM FIRST...Canadian second.

Biased? Watching 2 Jets, slam into the twin towers (piloted by Islamic whackos) made the threat we all face, very clear

[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oil4u', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '
')
Yet, they feel they know enough to crticize Muslim culture, when their own cultures are packed full of negative behaviors.

[Kez]

In my opinion, to get to the bottom of any religion, to see if it is divine or not, is to go directly to the one person who claimed to be divine, or receiving a divine message. If one is truly interested in the truth, they need to go read everything about Muhammad from every source they can find, and decide for themselves.

Deciding based on the actions of one member of that religion is wrong, just like judging Jesus based on some quack who blows up innocent people at abortion clinics is not a good way to judge Jesus.

Muhammad did not officially, in writing, appoint an interpreter or successor, so immediately upon his death there were problems with leadership and interpretation. The Sunni / Sh'ia split happened very early. This 12th Imam that the Iranian president is talking about: there were 12 Imam's (Sh'ia) starting with Ali, son in law of Muhammad, and the first 11 of them were killed by Sunnis right from the start, most by poisoning. The 12th was hidden away as a child so they couldn't kill him too.

It is also important to know that the Qur'an wasn't even compiled before he passed away, so who knows what has been changed, altered, mistransliterated, or forgotten by those who put it together. I certainly don't know nor claim to know.

[nwildmand]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kez', 'I')n my opinion, to get to the bottom of any religion, to see if it is divine or not, is to go directly to the one person who claimed to be divine, or receiving a divine message.

[oil4u]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '
')
But of course you never heard of the millions of innocent Muslim civilians that were slaughtered by the US and Israel right before 9/11 happened, right? All those dark-skinned non-Christians can die like rats, because you will only pay attention when they kill people from your own race and religion.

Maybe that's why the terrorists atacked 9/11. They figured it was the only way to call Americans' attention to the crimes their government was commiting in the ME. After all, most Americans have no idea of what their government is really doing in the ME.

[oil4u]

[quote="Miki"
Here is what Jihad in the Bible looks like:

[/quote]

Nice images! They must have come from the latest line of Islamofascist greeting cards.

Pretty twisted piece of propaganda!

[Eli]

Wow Miki, what you posted are some of the most awful kind of lies I have ever seen that "Bible and Jihad" stuff is just crap.

I think you are a dishonest person and you bring nothing to the this forum but venom and spite.

I pray that you get help and that God has mercy on you because the anger you have is going to kill you.

You said at one point that you are Christian you need to think about what that means.

Jesus said you shall know them by their fruits, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, long suffering, gentleness, goodness and faith.

On this forum you have shown nothing but hatefulness, anger , been quick to temper, and harsh.

I have read enough of what you have to say and I have had enough.
May God turn your heart, goodbye

[venky]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'W')ow Miki, what you posted are some of the most awful kind of lies I have ever seen that "Bible and Jihad" stuff is just crap.

I think you are a dishonest person and you bring nothing to the this forum but venom and spite.

I pray that you get help and that God has mercy on you because the anger you have is going to kill you.

You said at one point that you are Christian you need to think about what that means.

Jesus said you shall know them by their fruits, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, long suffering, gentleness, goodness and faith.

On this forum you have shown nothing but hatefulness, anger , been quick to temper, and harsh.

I have read enough of what you have to say and I have had enough.
May God turn your heart, goodbye

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Miki', '.')..

the US has fought 100 wars in the last 100 years

...

[Eli]

Vinky,

I appreciate your post and I am glad that you made it.

First off let me say that most Muslims are good and decent people. That being said I do think that actually reading the Koran and looking into what the Hadiths say is very important. It is also important to listen to what some Imams say in their sermons during their Friday prayers.

When you take a look at the Islamic holy texts directly, listen to the sermons and read the history of the religion it becomes readily obvious why some of them are violent and engage in holy war.

I do not think that slandering and denigrating Muslims is right but there has to be a reason why some of them commit violence in the name of god. My intention was never to slander or accuse any one falsely.

I posted what I did only after days of reading very angry replies. I do not mind online discussions but online screaming matches are beyond pointless. And her style of responses are just annoying she uses the shotgun technique were she blasts away throwing out as many straw man arguments and red herrings and the like as she can. She throws a ton of junk out there and just hopes something sticks, oh and the double posts that got to me too.

Only internet trolls double post.

[Armageddon]

Where is the video link ? I only found the interview link .

[Eli]

It is in the upper right hand corner of that page where it says watch in blue.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

Dreamtwister wrote:
Just because your (and my own, I might add) culture frowns on this type of behaviour does not give you the right to determine it's morality for a completely different culture. This time, it is *us* who are in the minority. The bulk of the world's population still to this day recognizes this type of behaviour as acceptable to varying degrees.

Miki wrote:
Pedophilia is considered a crime in the West because most Westerners consider it morally wrong. If in other cultures it is considered OK, then they're free to define their own laws based on their own culture.


Wow, nothing else really needs to be said does it. Read those quotes again.

What an absolute utter, utter disgrace. Pedophile apologists get the ignore button.

[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'W')ow Miki, what you posted are some of the most awful kind of lies I have ever seen that "Bible and Jihad" stuff is just crap.

[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('venky', ' ')But I think that both Miki and Oil4u are both equally vicious and insidious, to the point of being slanderous. But Miki brought it up only to retaliate against oil4u who did it first.