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Unread postby chris-h » Wed 16 Mar 2005, 14:23:47

Big huge business that will not be affected by the peak oil.

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Smoking pot may hasten onset of mental illness

Unread postby americandream » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 16:37:49

I am not sure about posting media links in these forums but the 8 Feb edition of The Montreal Gazette has an article on this.
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Re: Smoking pot may hasten onset of mental illness

Unread postby americandream » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 16:43:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'Y')ou forgot the link?

You must be stoned :razz:


Is it ok to add newspaper lnks?
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Re: Smoking pot may hasten onset of mental illness

Unread postby Ludi » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 16:57:31

"The researchers did not look at whether family history of psychosis played a role in determining who was most vulnerable to marijuana's apparent early-triggering effect."

That seems like a significant oversight. Genetics appears to play a role in some mental illnesses. Perhaps vulnerability to bad side effects of pot-smoking has a genetic link also. :?:
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Unread postby americandream » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 16:57:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') don't know how old your are AD (does that stand for Attention Deficit Disorder?) but that same crap story has been floating around for generations. The science behind sucks, the studies are garbage, and the agenda is obvious. Who's side are you on? The giant pharmaceuticals?

My state, the great state of California, the state that feeds and entertains you (we actually did invent the movie industry and the internet) has all but legalized pot because it is the right thing to do, your acetic post-communist drivel notwithstanding.


I'm a youngish (38) non-conformist communist. I have a brother and lots of friends back home in South Africa, the UK and in NZ who are nuts for smoking this stuff. My brother has the capacity of a teenager and he is 42. As a teenager, he went through long bouts of hallucinating where he heard voices in his head. I've quite a few friends who have been institutionalised after smoking this stuff. A friend tried to rape his mum while high and in a state of paranoia. My gf works with a bunch of pot smokers who are exceedingly unstable and prone to fits of unprovoked rage. In fact, her employer routinely drug tests, especially those handing heavy machinery and vehicles. Our local town council is having issues with staff, especially ones on the roads, messing up on the job. A whole stretch of the high street had to be redone because of issues with staff who turned up on the job stoned and the fact that the road went where it was not meant to.

Addicts don't want to hear these facts for the simple reason that they are......addicted. Consequently, this is a debate that only those of us who aren't engaged in this nefarious activity can engage in. The expert testimony of addicts is.....tainted and biased.
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Re: Smoking pot may hasten onset of mental illness

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 16:58:52

lsol - Smoking pot is good treatment for mental illness. :wink:

Mental Marijuana
Can reefers cure madness? There is some evidence that cannabis – or 'green Prozac' – has potential in the treatment of some psychiatric disorders, principally depression and bipolar disorder.


"I think cannabis has a lot of potential in the treatment of mental illness," says Lester Grinspoon, emeritus professor of psychiatry at the Harvard School of Medicine. He says that it can be an effective treatment for bipolar disorder and depression. Like any medicine, he cautions, it won't work for everyone.

http://www.alternet.org/drugs/19687/
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Unread postby Ludi » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 17:02:43

Maybe a lot of mentally ill folks try to self-medicate with pot. Seems to me they would be more likely to try to find help in plant chemicals and other chemicals such as alcohol than people who are mentally healthy. So the fact that a lot of pot smokers are mentally ill might be because a lot of mentally ill people smoke pot and not because pot causes mental illness.

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Unread postby Plantagenet » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 17:04:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', ' ')Genetics appears to play a role in some mental illnesses. Perhaps vulnerability to bad side effects of pot-smoking has a genetic link also. :?:


Good point but maybe not very significant. Genetic vulnerability to cigarette smoke is probably also why only some people get cancer from smoking.

Since we don't know who is genetically susceptible to getting brain damage from marijuana or cancer from cigarettes, its probably wise to avoid the use of both. :!:
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Re: Smoking pot may hasten onset of mental illness

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 17:06:00

Creative enlightened ppl like to smoke pot - what a wonderful 'erb it tis. :)
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Unread postby vision-master » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 17:07:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', ' ')Genetics appears to play a role in some mental illnesses. Perhaps vulnerability to bad side effects of pot-smoking has a genetic link also. :?:


Good point but maybe not very significant. Genetic vulnerability to cigarette smoke is probably also why only some people get cancer from smoking.

Since we don't know who is genetically susceptible to getting brain damage from marijuana or cancer from cigarettes, its probably wise to avoid the use of both. :!:


Using Marijuana grows brain cells planted. :)
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Re: Smoking pot may hasten onset of mental illness

Unread postby americandream » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 17:09:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'l')sol - Smoking pot is good treatment for mental illness. :wink:

Mental Marijuana
Can reefers cure madness? There is some evidence that cannabis – or 'green Prozac' – has potential in the treatment of some psychiatric disorders, principally depression and bipolar disorder.


"I think cannabis has a lot of potential in the treatment of mental illness," says Lester Grinspoon, emeritus professor of psychiatry at the Harvard School of Medicine. He says that it can be an effective treatment for bipolar disorder and depression. Like any medicine, he cautions, it won't work for everyone.

http://www.alternet.org/drugs/19687/


Like I said, only those of us who aren't dependent on this substance should really be deciding on its legality. I am uncomfortable with discussing a potential malady (which requires further investigation) with a potential victim. There is too much at stake here.

@ Ludi. Much of the information surrounding this drug is anecdotal. I know what I have seen. My brother had no underlying mental illness generating issues. If anything, his circumstances were anything but arduous. He was just a young kid who wanted to play in a band and spent one evening too many in a friends garage jamming whilst stoned.

However, you may well be correct but there should be no legalisation until the health risk of this narcotic is fully investigated. That is my position and it's a reasonable one.
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Re: Smoking pot may hasten onset of mental illness

Unread postby Ludi » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 17:12:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'C')reative enlightened ppl like to smoke pot - what a wonderful 'erb it tis. :)



I've met people (on the internet) who successfully treat their bipolar disorder with coffee and marijuana. Both these plants have far fewer documented dangerous side effects than any pharmaceutical treatment of bipolar. :!: I have not tried this treatment because of no ready source of pot and it being illegal here. :(
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Unread postby vision-master » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 17:12:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ike I said, only those of us who aren't dependent on this substance should really be deciding on its legality.


Dependent? :lol: Dear, it's less addicting than coffee.
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Re: Smoking pot may hasten onset of mental illness

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 17:13:10

Oh, please.

Psychotic disorders have a genetic link, and onset is often linked to major childhood stressors.

For such a study to have any validity, it would need to control for family history of psychosis, which it did not.

I do not smoke myself, but know people who have for 50 years who are well functioning members of society.

You obviously have members of your family with a history of psychosis. Any drug with psychoactive effects can trigger symptoms in those prone to mental disorders in the first place.

Sorry your brother has mental problems but your connecting it with his marijuana use sounds like a bias that allows you not to look for other possible precursors.

Also, Marijuana is not a narcotic. You sound like Jack Webb on Dragnet.
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Re: Smoking pot may hasten onset of mental illness

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 17:14:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'C')reative enlightened ppl like to smoke pot - what a wonderful 'erb it tis. :)



I've met people (on the internet) who successfully treat their bipolar disorder with coffee and marijuana. Both these plants have far fewer documented dangerous side effects than any pharmaceutical treatment of bipolar. :!: I have not tried this treatment because of no ready source of pot and it being illegal here. :(



Ludi, way better than meds. Been there done that. Sleeping problems? toke up my friend, no hangover effect the next morning........
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Re: Smoking pot may hasten onset of mental illness

Unread postby Ludi » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 17:15:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'M')y brother had no underlying mental illness generating issues. If anything, his circumstances were anything but arduous.



Not sure what arduous circumstances have to do with a person's genetic predisposition to mental illness except that any kind of stressor can trigger the onset of mental illness. One can have a perfectly easy life and still become mentally ill. Unless you were unusually close to your bother you may not have known what was going on in his inner life.
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Re: Smoking pot may hasten onset of mental illness

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 08 Feb 2011, 17:16:59

Many times it's just a chemical imbalance in the brain.
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