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“The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time,” said Foreign Secretary Sir Edward Grey to a friend on the eve of Britain’s entry into the First World War.
Observing from afar as the coronavirus pandemic ravages the Old Continent, Grey’s words return to mind. And as the Great War changed Europe forever, the COVID-19 pandemic seems to be changing the way European peoples see each other.
“All for one and one for all!” These were the words by which “The Three Musketeers” of Alexandre Dumas lived their lives.
This was the ideal upon which the EU and NATO were built. An attack against one is an attack against all. The Schengen Agreement by which citizens of Europe are as free to travel through the countries of their continent as Americans are to travel from Maryland to Virginia is rooted in that ideal.
Yet, suddenly, all that seems to belong to yesterday.
How the EU’s nation-states are reacting to the coronavirus crisis brings to mind another phrase, a French phrase, “Sauve qui peut,” a rough translation of which is, “Every man for himself.”
The New York Times has written of the new reality. In Sunday’s top story, “Europe Locks Up and Faces Crisis as Virus Spread,” the Times wrote:
“While some European leaders, like President Emmanuel Macron of France, have called for intensifying cooperation across nations, others are trying to close their countries off.
“From Denmark to Slovakia, governments went into aggressive virus-fighting mode with border closings.”
Describing a host of countries heeding the call of tribalism and nationalism, the Times laments Monday:
“Today, Europeans are… erecting borders between countries, inside their cities and neighborhoods, around their homes — to protect themselves from their neighbors, even from their own grandchildren.”
“Confronting a virus that knows no borders, this modern Europe without borders is building them everywhere.”
In a few days, the Europe of open borders has become history.
“As the pandemic spreads from Italy to Spain, France, Germany,” reports the Times, “there is a growing sense of the need for harsh, even authoritarian methods, many of them taken from China.
“Europe has been terrified by Italy. Suddenly, many of the continent’s countries are trying to lock down, to protect themselves and their citizens. The idea of European solidarity, and of a borderless Europe where citizens are free to travel and work, seems very far away.”
Italy, hardest-hit country after China, is on lockdown. Germany is closing its borders with Austria, Denmark, France, Luxembourg and Switzerland. The Czech Republic, Cyprus, Denmark, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Slovakia have announced they will close borders to all foreigners. President Donald Trump has expanded his travel ban on Europe to include two of America’s oldest friends, Britain and Ireland.
Slovenia has closed its border with Italy. Norway is on lockdown. International travelers who arrive in Norway risk a mandatory 14-day quarantine, regardless of their health.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced that Canada is barring entry to all travelers who are not citizens or permanent residents. The only exceptions are air crews, diplomats, and, “at this time,” U.S. citizens.
What we are witnessing is the clash of the claims of human nature and of ideology.
Through history, most men have put attachments of family, tribe, faith, country, race and nation above the claims of liberal ideology.
But while all citizens may have the same God-given right to life and constitutional right to “equal protection of the laws,” all people do not have equal rights to our affections or concerns.
For most men, the claims of the heart are superior to those of the mind. Foreign folks do not have the same claims upon us as our own. In a crisis, people put families, friends and country first.
In the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson declares that, “all men are created equal.” Yet, what truly seems to enrage him and to justify the rebellion against George III are the crimes the king had committed and that he had been “deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity.”
The king had violated the claims of our common blood while we Americans had not been “wanting in attentions to our British brethren.”
Closing borders is a grievous offense against liberalism that is supposedly rooted in the sin of xenophobia. But what governments in Europe are saying by closing their borders, what Americans are saying by banning travel from Europe, is that while all men may be created equal, we will always put our own people first, ahead of the rest.
When a crisis comes, be it a war in which the survival of the nation is at stake or an epidemic where the health and survival of our people is at stake, we take care of our own first.
This is human nature. This is the way the world works.
50 Comments on "In the Pandemic, It’s Every Nation for Itself"
Rick on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 5:43 pm
Ban the resale of toilet paper, masks, hand sanitizers etc. by people who are sketchy.
Rick on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 5:44 pm
Ban the resale on Kijiji and other sites.
makati1 on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 6:29 pm
First, this whole situation is either a world wide design, by the people who want to rule the world, to create fear and to get people to beg for a killer vaccine and government control.
OR
It is really the beginning of the end for humans with a natural occurring virus that will just keep mutating and killing until the end, maybe.
Take your pick, but I lean towards the first explanation. why? Interesting that the three hardest hit, so far, countries are on the US shit list: China, Iran, and Italy (the first EU country to sign on to the new Silk Road (China). Why not deliver the virus to those places first if you are the originator? Just askin.
Of course, it will then be spread by the millions who fly around the world everyday, or at least, the millions who used to fly around the world every day. I am curious as to how this will all shake out. Many millions losing their jobs/income. Businesses going bust by the thousands. Stock market crashes. Etc..
If you survive this, and were not a preppier before, I bet you will be. ^_^
Davy on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 6:40 pm
“First, this whole situation is either a world wide design, by the people who want to rule the world”
LMFAO, makato, the situation is from a sloppy Asian fuckup, dumbass. Yea, your AsiaUp destroyed the world and it could kill you. You sure would deserve it.
Rick on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 7:11 pm
The COVID-19 will happen for months, if not years.
DT on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 8:32 pm
My friend is a prepper and just came to the realization that about half of the food in her larder was out of date. She laughed and said “I have two choices I can eat the out of date food first, but then I face the other food that will be out of date by that time, or I can eat the in date food first and end up with a bunch of really out of date food.” Good luck.
INXS on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 10:48 pm
The problem with this virus is due to chinks, gooks, etc. are eating up all the world’s wildlife.
Have ANY of you morons seen how the animals are treated? They are TORTURED to DEATH on PURPOSE as they believe the meat will be more flavorful. A favorite is to throw the live animal into a pot of boiling water.
Well, I got news for you. I GUARANTEE THERE IS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL RESERVED FOR THESE MONSTERS.
God, why didn’t we listen to MacArthur??????????
JuanP on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 10:53 pm
INXS, You still believe in hell? Do you go to the temple to pray to gods, too? Grow up! Lol!
makati1 on Wed, 18th Mar 2020 11:03 pm
JuanP, you might be surprised how many still believe in voodoo like religions. They want some one(god) to blame their mistakes on or to help them survive from those same mistakes. Weak asses all. When we poss, it is over.
Theedrich on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 1:58 am
It’ll be serious when Congress blocks the Spics. Until then, the politicos will just be gyrating with smoke and mirrors. After all, a crisis is a terrible thing to waste. The southern border will not be closed lest the elites be thought of as politically incorrect. Anyway, the whole point of the current Chicom viral thingy is to eliminate the White race and replace it with lower species. And if the invaders from outhouselands bring in a new virus that has mutated further to 90% lethality, itll be just what the Davos doctors ordered.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 3:54 am
“Weak asses all. When we poss, it is over.”
The only “afterlife” to believe in is your children.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 4:06 am
Take your pick, but I lean towards the first explanation. why? Interesting that the three hardest hit, so far, countries are on the US shit list: China, Iran, and Italy (the first EU country to sign on to the new Silk Road (China). Why not deliver the virus to those places first if you are the originator? Just askin.
Exactly my thoughts. China, Iran, Italy… that’s a little too much of a coincidence.
However, we should not overestimate the intelligence of the morons who are behind this stunt. We should only be impressed by the criminal energy behind these people, just like with that false flag that was 9/11 or the holohoax.
Everything these neocon Clouseau’s undertook since 9/11 went terribly wrong:
Afghanistan
Iraq
Syria
Venezuela
Transferring US industry to China
Trump presidency
Brexit, loosening the US grip on Europe
This Corona event will only quicker terminate globalism and will hit the US just as bad as any other country.
And if the Chinese can make it plausible in the eyes of the world that this was a US-UK-Mossad black op, China will have the perfect opportunity to issue an ultimatum against the US to get lost from the SCS and East-Asia. Because the Chinese leadership will have the perfect situation to mobilize its population against the US and ask for sacrifices.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 4:14 am
In the Netherlands rumors circulate in the media that a total lock-down is immanent (curfew). UK same story:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8127171/Boris-Johnson-hints-lockdown-London.html
“‘Superspreader city’ London faces total lockdown in DAYS as Boris Johnson says he ‘rules nothing out’ and 20,000 troops are put on standby to enforce new laws – after UK’s daily death rate DOUBLED to 33 in 24 hours”
Trump wants to prepare for martial law:
https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/coronavirus-donald-trump-will-gesetz-zur-kriegswirtschaft-aktivieren-a-076e74f3-b35c-473b-b5ee-ebfe8a80fce4
I have seen reports yesterday that they now have Corona tests that give results in a few minutes via a finger blood prick. That would be a great help.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 4:30 am
The Dutch health minister fainted yesterday in parliament after he was grilled by the two right-wing populists Wilders and Baudet about his handling of the Corona crisis:
https://nos.nl/video/2327555-oververmoeide-minister-bruins-zakt-in-elkaar-tijdens-coronadebat.html
Here the same pictures via youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-7Zb8JT134
Nursing homes in the Netherlands ARE going in total lock-down. Visiting granny only per iPad.
Universal basic income introduced in Britain plus a mortgage holiday of three months for those who can’t pay.
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 4:34 am
Oops, I tried to tell the cloggo this would happen but he ignored me and happen from many reasons besides a pandemic. This China virus and the implosion of the EU..coming to the US too…will likely end the rapid advances of renewables. Translation cloggo, the world is broke. Fossil fuels are heading to beyond cheap. Your whole idea of the PBM based on renewables has evaporated. All you do anymore is regurgitate cloggonoise and put lipstick on it.
“China Takes Axe To Alternative Energy Funding, Slashing Subsidies For Solar And Wind”
https://tinyurl.com/qq5oy48 zero hedge
“China is going to cut its budget for new solar power plants in half this year and plans on completely ending handouts for offshore wind farms, according to Caixin. It is the latest in a string of moves by the Chinese government to cut support for renewable energy. The attitude has shifted in recent years as manufacturing costs have dropped. The government now seems focused on getting renewable energy to stand on its own. Shi Jingli, a professor at a research institute under China’s top economic planner said: “Cutting subsidies for new renewable energy projects is a reasonable measure to allocate funds more wisely. The generous subsidies given to offshore wind farms over the past few years have weighed on the central government’s finances and caused severe deficits in subsidy funding. Meanwhile, new installations of solar power capacity plunged 40% last year after the country installed 26.81 gigawatts of new capacity. Numerous other projects underway have already hit major delays due to the coronavirus outbreak and supply chain disruptions. Could EVs be next?”
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 4:36 am
The good news: lock-downs work!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-19/china-s-virus-epicenter-sees-no-new-cases-after-two-month-ordeal
“China’s Virus Center Has No New Cases After Two-Month Ordeal”
These figures should be taken with a grain of salt, however it IS clear that in China the worst is over. Only 3245 dead. That’s less than a flu.
No reasons to think it will be different in the West, provided draconian measures are imposed first, like in China.
Perhaps the global ordeal is over in 2-3 months when the weather gets better and Corona will evaporate, like SARS or ebola.
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 4:38 am
“And if the Chinese can make it plausible in the eyes of the world that this was a US-UK-Mossad black op, China will have the perfect opportunity to issue an ultimatum against the US to get lost from the SCS and East-Asia. Because the Chinese leadership will have the perfect situation to mobilize its population against the US and ask for sacrifices.”
LMFAO, not working cloggo. I have followed the virus theories and it is more likely this was a China fuck up. It is also reasonable because we know that China has all kinds of hazardous events because of their drive to be number 1 in growth and development. Your love of them is now destroying the EU that is the most exposed to the downside of this virus.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 4:43 am
“China Takes Axe To Alternative Energy Funding, Slashing Subsidies For Solar And Wind”
Empire dave getting his knickers wet about the prospect of a sabotaged renewable energy transition.
Sadly for him this is not going to happen. We have a Norwegian state oil fund, filled with one trillion of cash, desperate to find investment opportunities in a zero interest environment. Currently there is little so profitable as an offshore wind park. No need for government tax money, the market will handle the renewable energy transition.
What IS going to happen is that the US shale industry will be decapitated by $20 oil.
Perhaps contemplate buying a wind park in Europe? Just a thought.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/norways-sovereign-wealth-fund-boosts-renewable-energy-divests-fossil-fuels-11560357485
“Norway’s Sovereign-Wealth Fund Boosts Renewable Energy, Divests Fossil Fuels”
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 4:44 am
“These figures should be taken with a grain of salt, however it IS clear that in China the worst is over. Only 3245 dead. That’s less than a flu.”
LMFAO, yet again..The worst is just get started as China must reboot its export driven economy. The virus will again infect and spread but not as bad. The economic fallout will be severe and many growth forces will be history. China will never see the growth of the past nor will the EU. Yeap, cloggo/makato, AsiaUp and EuropeUp is finished. Auh, Yeap, US is going down too so that will make you dumbasses feel better. How far we as a global people go down will depend on cooperation not absurd conflict politics of people like you two.
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 4:50 am
“Empire dave getting his knickers wet about the prospect of a sabotaged renewable energy transition.”
Not at all, I am by far greener than you and productive. I actually produce real stuff not digital noise of hate and resentment. I have 3 times the PV you do with batteries and inverter. You crow about your lame grid tie system. I am patting myself on the back in your regards because I told you decline would stop renewables in their tracks along with other economic growth. The world will likely get back to business but it is now a different world. Past growth numbers will be history. Forget your 100% renewable world cloggo although we may get to that if we as a people don’t watch how far we descend economically. In this case renewable will be early 19th century stuff.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 4:52 am
Poor empire dave, something doesn’t add up for him. Europe outshining third world USA:
https://windeurope.org/newsroom/press-releases/worlds-first-offshore-wind-farm-without-subsidies-to-be-built-in-the-netherlands/
“World’s first offshore wind farm without subsidies to be built in the Netherlands”
Nothing is going to stop the renewable energy transition in Europe.
You better concentrate on your silly goats as that is all you’ve got.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 4:55 am
“I have 3 times the PV you do with batteries and inverter.”
American hyper-individualism in action. He has a few more panels so now, for some reason, America is “winning”.
Your privately-owned pathetic panels don’t matter. What does matter is the number of renewable Watt’s you can field per capita.
INXS on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:00 am
JuanP-
You are smug and know all the answers.
Nemesis, the punisher of pride and hubris, has reserved a special meeting with you. Just give it time and you will know hell.
INXS on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:04 am
Defenceless dogs scream in agony as they are boiled ALIVE for sick trade in Asian bushmeat
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/defenceless-dogs-scream-agony-boiled-8788111
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:06 am
Yo, cloggo, we constantly heard from you and makato in the past about the end of the dollar and a GDP drop to Slovenian levels. The dollar and the US are heading that direction but we are following you and China to get there. LMFAO yet again at the cloggo.
“Is This The Next Big Headache For Global Economy?”
https://tinyurl.com/yxxe9ses zero hedge
“Marrying the supply chain disruption triggered by the Covid-19 crisis in China with the oil price war, this has crippled the petrodollar exchange system by sending the price of oil sharply lower and exacerbating the global dollar funding shock. We’ve pointed out, the world is facing an unprecedented dollar margin call, as a result of the $12 trillion synthetic dollar short, some 60% of US GDP. With the dollar rising, the cost of servicing dollar debt for businesses and governments becomes more expensive as their local currencies plunge amid the barrage of rate cuts by global central banks. “The surge in the dollar is another blow to emerging markets,” said Mitul Kotecha, senior emerging markets strategist at TD Securities in Singapore. “The demand for the dollar has outweighed any hit to the US currency from sharply lower Fed rates. EM assets will continue to struggle as investors steer clear of relatively risky assets and maintain a bias for safe havens.”
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:08 am
“Chloroquine, an old malaria drug, may help treat novel coronavirus, doctors say”
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/chloroquine-malaria-drug-treat-coronavirus-doctors/story?id=69664561
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:11 am
“Nothing is going to stop the renewable energy transition in Europe. You better concentrate on your silly goats as that is all you’ve got.”
It is over and the cloggo just can’t get his head around that. He was in denial but now it is absurd denial. cloggo, it won’t all be gone but advancement will likely not stall completely. The EU is at the point of accelerated cost of renewable integration and that is likely where the end game is.
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:13 am
“American hyper-individualism in action. He has a few more panels so now, for some reason, America is “winning”.
When the cloggo loses the debate he has to twist it around to sound different. cloggo, dummy, this is about you and me. You are a FRAUD.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:15 am
“LMFAO”
You can only “laugh your fucking ass off” once, empire dave.
You must be sitting on your bare bones by now.
“Yo, cloggo, we constantly heard from you and makato in the past about the end of the dollar and a GDP drop to Slovenian levels.”
Empire dave is an American and these people usually only think in terms of money and nothing else.
But you must see the entire picture, not just GDP. I believe in the white biosphere and its immense potential. I gladly trade in 20% GDP for a situation where the borders are hermetically sealed off from parasites from the global South and where white birthrates will go up again.
All in all, I see Corona as a big white nationalist positive, even if I feel sorry for those people who have to die prematurely.
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:21 am
The cloggo/makato freak show told us this was the era of AsiaUp and EuropeUp although the fought among each other on who was up and down but they both said USdown. Now the cloggo and makato are totally discredited. SUCKERS!
“JPMorgan Now Expects A Global Depression In The Second Quarter”
https://tinyurl.com/sv6mbcg zero hedge
“In a separate note by JPM’s Bruce Kasman, has also taken a flamethrower to his global economic forecasts, and the bank’s head of economic policy now anticipates Europe to implode an unprecedented 22%, the UK to crater by a depressionary and with the US plunging 14%, he sees the global economy ex China contracting by a whopping -13.7%. In short, JPM now expects no less than a global depression in the second quarter. This will follow a Q1 quarter in which China is expected to collapse by -40.8%, which however will somehow surge by 57.4% in the second quarter… JPMorgan’s summary: “If a normalization in activity from depressed levels takes hold midyear alongside building policy stimulus, the depth of the current downturn can be seen as a springboard for a strong snapback in growth. However, there is a significant risk that the virus outbreak persists and activity remains restricted for a longer time. In this environment, risks rise that the depth of the initial shock unleashes negative forces that magnify the hit to activity into 2H20. Notably, firms that had been hovering on the margins of viability pre-crisis may not have sufficient equity to justify even a subsidized extension of credit and may close. The longer the duration of the interruption to activity, the deeper into the population of firms likely closures will occur, and the greater the feedback into consumer incomes and expectations… In short, the world is facing an assured economic depression in Q2, and the only question is whether this depression persists into the second half and 2021 or reverses in Q3. The answer will depend on a combination of “price to perfection” events all turning out just as hoped for. Which, in a world of record political polarization, ascendant nationalism, and a torn social fabric, is recipe for not only disappointment but also disaster.”
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:29 am
“Empire dave is an American and these people usually only think in terms of money and nothing else.”
I am embedded in reality and you are in a dystopian fantasy, cloggo. I very much enjoy crushing you and the makato. In this period money does matter, cloggo, more precisely the lack of it. We are talking depression here, cloggo, with huge amount of deaths and loss of confidence. Your PBM empire is over cloggo and the beginning of the balkanization of the EU. The same but different angle will be in Asia and North America. I have been preaching this for years just not precisely how. It was hard to pick because there were so many possibilities. Possibilities you routinely dismissed. This is what happens to Ponzi globalism and in the small world of the deranged cloggo mindset.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:30 am
Dutch national debt for the first time below 50% (49%):
https://www.businessinsider.nl/nederland-staatsschuld-2019/
NOTHING is going to stop the energy transition in the Netherlands.
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:38 am
“Dutch national debt for the first time below 50% (49%):”
Dutch debt in aggregate from all sources is high, cloggo. This is most notable when you include business. The dislocation goes into the stratosphere when you look at southern EU liabilities at the ECB level with tier 1 financing. Italy will be destroyed by this virus as we know it. The euro will likely break apart in some way in the coming year or two. cloggo, this is long term. These quarantine measure just slow the bulge of the virus but the economic negative bulge is growing like a wild fire. Your nederland has huge amounts pledged to the south you will never see again much like a popcorn fart dissipates.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:44 am
“Dutch debt in aggregate from all sources is high, cloggo.”
It isn’t, we have been through this several times before and every time I made you look silly with your shallow understanding of economics.
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:53 am
“It isn’t, we have been through this several times before and every time I made you look silly with your shallow understanding of economics.”
It is cloggo and the Dutch have been good at hiding it. Your quasi socialistic system is in for a huge awakening. Now cloggo, in relative terms the Dutch will be OK at least in the start of this process but good in a world of bad does not mean the world according to cloggo. It is very hard in times like this for you to crow your bullshit. You are a FRAUD and a fool. You can’t expect to come on here and preach your bullshit all day long and not expect a neutering. Now shut up for a while you wounded rodent.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:55 am
“Your nederland has huge amounts pledged to the south you will never see again”
Wrong.
https://www.elsevierweekblad.nl/stelling/achtergrond/2019/09/rutte-heeft-gelijk-grieken-gaan-geleend-geld-terugbetalen-706531/
“PM Rutte is right, Greeks have started to pay back the 3.2 billion to the Netherlands”
3.2B is peanuts anyway.
“Saving Greece or the euro” was never the sole motivation. The main motivation was saving German, French and Dutch banks from falling over after irresponsible lending to Greece.
There is no euro crisis. There never was any, only hype. We have an ECB that guards that inflation stays within 2% and succeeds in that.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 5:56 am
“Now shut up for a while”
Admission of defeat if you say things like that on a forum.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 6:00 am
Toilet paper “crisis” in the Netherlands.
Dutch PM:
“we kunnen tien jaar poepen”
LOL
https://nos.nl/video/2327610-er-is-genoeg-wc-papier-zegt-rutte-we-kunnen-tien-jaar-poepen.html
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 6:08 am
EU-Brexit negotiator Barnier (69) tested positive for Corona:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8130055/Michel-Barnier-tests-positive-coronavirus.html
“Michel Barnier tests positive for coronavirus: EU Brexit negotiator, 69, says ‘I’m fine, morale is good’ as he reveals he’s infected”
96% chance he is going to survive.
The good news: the Brexit negotiations are on hold for at least 2 weeks, if not longer, increasing the chance for a desired no-deal Brexit and WTO-trade.
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 6:21 am
The first dolphin in the waters of Venice since 60 years:
https://twitter.com/NotLacazette/status/1239860872119496704?s=20
Abraham van Helsing on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 11:23 am
New encouraging Wuhan data:
https://www.trouw.nl/buitenland/wuhan-geeft-ons-een-beetje-hoop-sterfterisico-corona-is-lager-dan-gedacht~b6731826/
Mortality is merely 1.4% of those who got sick, not to be confused with those who got infected.
Mortality is very age-dependent: 6% above 80.
Teens: 1.4%
People in 30s: almost 0%
Scare monger stories about tens of thousands of deaths are unlikely to happen.
3 weeks of lock-down is sufficient to suppress the virus, than gradual prudent and monitored relaxation, followed by months of sustained social distancing and ever better and quicker testing methods.
I wouldn’t be surprised if by July things will have returned to normal for 90%.
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 11:29 am
This is for juanPee the deranged lunatic and makato the senile old man both of whom said that this virus ain’t shit:
“Come Home Or Shelter In Place” – State Department Issues Travel Advisory To All Americans Abroad”
https://tinyurl.com/r7yvk26 zero hedge
“With COVID-19 cases and deaths surging in the US and Europe, the US State Department is set to announce Level 4 travel restrictions on all international travel, reports Politico. The State Department’s new warning is expected to advise all Americans abroad to either return to the US or shelter in place as the virus crisis continues to worsen. The new travel advisory is expected to inform all Americans not to travel abroad. Last week, the State Department issued a Level 3 Global Health Advisory, urging Americans to reconsider international travel. It appears in a week’s time, the pandemic has gotten much worse. Here are the current travel restrictions on the State Department’s website: US citizens will be permitted to return from the United Kingdom, Ireland and the Schengen area. The Department of Homeland Security has issued instructions requiring US passengers that are coming from (or transiting) the United Kingdom, Ireland and the Schengen area to travel through select airports where the US Government has implemented enhanced screening procedures. The new travel advisory could be announced imminently. There are reports @StateDept poised to announce Level 4 travel alert for all countries. — Steve Herman (@W7VOA) March 19, 2020 *Developing…”
Anchorman – That Escalated Quickly scene (1080p)
https://tinyurl.com/sgmlt64 YouTube
Davy on Thu, 19th Mar 2020 11:31 am
“I wouldn’t be surprised if by July things will have returned to normal for 90%.”
LMFAO, this day has been so fun here on the Peak Absurdity forum. You know, in times of tragedy it is good to have a little humor.
Richard on Fri, 20th Mar 2020 12:22 pm
All the time, he profits from this crisis.
Outcast_Searcher on Fri, 20th Mar 2020 5:35 pm
And yet, in the real world, there are efforts underway to create 20 different vaccines to combat COVID-19, and scientists are working together.
You see, now, we have this newfangled thing called “the internet”, and it provides a lot of advantages, vs. only trying to spread panic for profit.
This is going to be a difficult time but the usual end of days next week scenario the fast crash doom crowd has been falsely painting for the past several decades (being constantly wrong) STILL doesn’t apply, at least not yet.
Even WITH buffoons like Trump and the incompetence and lies that brings to the table.
Outcast_Searcher on Fri, 20th Mar 2020 5:38 pm
The hot spots are largely locking down in an attempt to slow the spread.
And the best the doomers have is whining about border closings?
OK then. Of course, no matter WHAT was done, they’d be doing PLENTY of whining, constantly, anyway, so there’s that.
Davy on Fri, 20th Mar 2020 6:15 pm
OS, I am surprised you are here. LOL. You are going to be the whiner soon. All your stupid techno optimism ain’t gonna hunt anymore. LMFAO
Davy on Fri, 20th Mar 2020 6:16 pm
“And yet, in the real world, there are efforts underway to create 20 different vaccines to combat COVID-19, and scientists are working together.”
Hello, OS, its the economy stupid. LMFAO again. This site is so much fun.
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 22nd Mar 2020 8:35 am
Going Dutch. “Niksen” or how to get through weeks, if not months, of self-isolation
https://time.com/5622094/what-is-niksen/
“Niksen Is the Dutch Lifestyle Concept of Doing Nothing—And You’re About to See It Everywhere”
https://s.s-bol.com/imgbase0/imagebase3/extralarge/FC/9/0/0/8/9200000125118009.jpg
https://www.inspiratie-loods.nl/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/WhatsApp-Image-2019-08-30-at-17.47.12.jpeg
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 22nd Mar 2020 8:55 am
In Northern Italy you will only make into a ICU if you have good chances to survive.
https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/dramatischer-krankenhaus-notstand-triage-wie-im-krieg-norditaliens-aerzte-waehlen-intensivpatienten-nach-infektionsschwere-aus_id_11796601.html
It’s a war practice and it is called “triage” (sorting).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triage
Going to happen everywhere eventually.
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