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Kunstler: Black Swans, Dead Cats, Live Bats, and Goodbye to All That
Had enough excitement yet? At least the stock markets are following an established script: the bubble pops, the elevator drops, for a while it stops… and then investments sink to the deepest sub-basement, where they linger for a long, long time. Hello, next great depression…. We know how that story goes, even if it hurts.
This corona virus is something else. It engulfs whole populations in a fog of confounding narratives. Is it no worse than a bad common cold, except for old folks already half-gone with chronic illness? Or does it really slam people even in the midst of life? Well, Wuhan hospital director Liu Zhiming, 51, went down two weeks ago, and gastroenterologist Xia Sisi, 29, and Dr. Peng Yinhua, also 29, and some prominent Iranian politicians, and lots of very sick healthcare workers from Korea to Italy. Whatever corona virus is, I’m not persuaded that it’s a hoax.
One monster banging around in that fog is the narrative that China started this thing simply to get rid of Mr. Trump. There’s a real baby-and-bathwater proposition. Would China, in effect, blow up its export economy for that, i.e. commit suicide? Because a lot of those prior arrangements will probably not come back — the manufacturing supply lines for this-and-that, the fabulous cornucopia of plastic goodies extruded from all those smoking factories and flushed out to the world, the whole glorious let’s-get-rich extravaganza that Deng Xiaoping kicked off forty years ago. It’s looking like the global economy is on the rocks, perhaps for good, as we knew it. Is China as plumb crazy as, for instance, America’s political Left?
If anything, China has only validated Mr. Trump’s point that America bargained away its industrial independence, and must become more self-sufficient again. True enough. Where I depart from MAGA is my sense that the industrial age itself has probably shot its wad, and that whatever America makes of itself going forward is likely to be a much more modest and simpler way of life, without a lot of the dazzling bells and whistles we’ve become accustomed to, and perhaps some genuine hardship.
I say that, readers will recall, because it really all comes down to the energy inputs available and that part of the picture has gone pretty grim in just the past week. The convergence of world events has driven a wooden stake through the heart of the shale oil business. From the get-go, shale oil was a loser because it just cost too much to get that oil out of the rock it was trapped in. It only worked as a financial stunt during the low interest lending orgy of the past decade. It was a magnificent stunt, you understand, goosing US production to 13 million barrels a day — energy independence, with all those short-term feel-good vibes — but it was just a stunt and now it’s over. The reality of this has yet to penetrate the American hive-mind.
Corona virus neatly imploded that financing scaffold, and now, with world business locked down and markets cratering, capital is vanishing. As I’ve averred before, the shale companies spent ten years proving to investors that they can’t make a red cent. Their bonds and notes are sinking into sub-investment-grade oblivion. Some of the major producers — Whiting, Oasis, Chesapeake — have lost over 90 percent of their share value and will probably soon be gone. Who would lend them more money now, even if the money was there? (Maybe Uncle Sam’s wicked step-son, Mr. Trump, if it comes down to that… we’ll see.) Meanwhile, oil is cheap, but demand is gone, planes are not flying, ships are not sailing, stadiums are empty, lots of things are shutting down, and quite a bit of it may not ever come back.
US politics were already crazy enough before all this suddenly happened. The crisis of the past few weeks also saw the supernatural elevation of Joe Biden to the utterly implausible role of last-vehicle-standing in the Democratic Party demolition derby. Who do they think they are kidding? Not only is Joe Biden observably gone-in-the-head — that is, clearly unfit to be president — but he’s loaded down with a steaming, fetid cargo of easily proven grifting offenses so clunky and obvious they would embarrass a South Philly mobster. I’m sure Mr. Biden stayed in the race solely to avoid investigation for his operations in Ukraine and China with son, Hunter.
Corona virus has provided a chance for the former veep to duck out of the spotlight, where he spent recent weeks blathering incoherently and starting fights with voters. And now something really nefarious may be a’foot with the Dems. If the wounded Bernie Sanders does not use Sunday’s debate as an opportunity to expose Mr. Biden’s dementia and finish him off, here’s the DNC’s playbook: Hope that the stock market crash and broken economy sink Mr. Trump in public opinion, then contrive to nominate Mr. Biden and get a black woman on the ticket as veep. That part of the story has been trotted out already. I’m beginning to wonder whether that black woman will happen to be Michelle Obama, and I’m also wondering whether Barack Obama is behind the scenes orchestrating this. Of course, Mr. Biden, if elected, will serve in office less than a week — just long enough to hustle him off with the 25th amendment. Voila! The Obamas are back in the White House, out-Clintoning even the Clintons! Happy days are here again! (Not.)
85 Comments on "Kunstler: Black Swans, Dead Cats, Live Bats, and Goodbye to All That"
The Board on Sat, 14th Mar 2020 2:24 pm
As of Today (March 13), davyskum has conducted over 101 sock and ID thefts, and he has one-tenth the IQ of a jackass.
Anonymouse on Sat, 14th Mar 2020 2:53 pm
The Board said As of Today (March 13), Juanskum has conducted ove…
Professor Avrill G. Snoopington, IV on Sat, 14th Mar 2020 5:45 pm
DavyScum-
A total orafice Fleet enima would do you wonders.
The covid virus pales in comparison to the yeast infection growing inside of you. your relentless stupidity is a clear indication the fungus has circumvented your blood-brain barrier.
Professor Avrill G. Snoopington, IV on Sat, 14th Mar 2020 8:14 pm
juanScum-
A total orafice Fleet enima would do you wonders.
The covid virus pales in comparison to the yeast infection growing inside of you. your relentless stupidity is a clear indication the fungus has circumvented your blood-brain barrier.
More DavyScum ID Theft on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 1:08 am
DavyScum ID theft on clear display.
Professor Avrill G. Snoopington, IV on Sat, 14th Mar 2020 8:14 pm
And The Scum pretends to be puzzled why he is avoided like the plague (notwithstanding numerous DavyScum socks).
Mods, purge PO.com of The Scum.
Peak Oil Ombudsman on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 1:18 am
The Board on Sat, 14th Mar 2020 2:24 pm
As of Today (March 13), davyskum has conducted over 101 sock and ID thefts, and he has one-tenth the IQ of a jackass.
—–UPDATE—–
DavyScum ID Theft and Sock insanity now updated to 103.
DavyScum Sock and ID Theft Reporting Documentation.
101 + Anonymouse on Sat, 14th Mar 2020 2:53 pm + Professor Avrill G. Snoopington, IV on Sat, 14th Mar 2020 8:14 pm = 103.
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 5:10 am
“Coronavirus is Boris Johnson’s worst nightmare”
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/14/uk/coronavirus-boris-johnson-brexit-intl-gbr/index.html
“It seems likely when you consider that the EU’s patience for British politics wore thin ages ago. “We are moving to the stage where we don’t really care, whatever they do,” says the diplomatic source.”
Hint: EU U-turn to Russia and China!
“Both Johnson and the EU are currently close to capacity dealing with the coronavirus crisis. And as the July 1 deadline races up on Johnson, he is likely going to face pressure to consider extending the Brexit transition to avoid economic catastrophe. “Short-term political pain for Boris is a price worth paying when compared with the medium to long-term risks of getting something like this badly wrong,” says Streeting.”
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 4:31 pm
COVID-19: Further Evidence that the Virus Originated in the US
By Larry Romanoff
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/no_author/covid-19-further-evidence-that-the-virus-originated-in-the-us/
Davy on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 4:51 pm
Cloggo, you just regurgitated the original global research article from yesterday and the one makato1 planted a week or so ago. Go to the very end of the article and it says copy-write Lew Rockwell Global Research. You can’t come up with anything objective and peer reviewed can you just the same BS recycled over and over FRAUD
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 4:53 pm
America First-latest:
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-confirms-that-donald-trump-tried-to-buy-firm-working-on-coronavirus-vaccine/
Trump has tried to buy a German pharma firm with the purpose of acquiring the exclusive right for the US.
Abraham van Helsing on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 4:56 pm
Corona for laughs…
https://tinyurl.com/r4hbaqv
“Hank will be working from home tomorrow”
Duncan Idaho on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 5:06 pm
“We don’t see things as they are, we see them as we are.”
— Anais Nin
makati1 on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 5:39 pm
The source of an article may tell you the spin, but it may also tell you the truth, Davy. Does the possibility that what is now taking down the US might just have originated there and backfired? I think it did.
I hope it takes the US down the rest of the way so it has to close its 800+ terrorist bases all over the world. And, yes, terrorist. The US is the world’s biggest terrorist organization/sponsor in the world. The ONLY thing it is number one in except debt. Oh, and lies and hypocrisy.
Watching the US implode, one day at a time, this sunny Monday morning. Pass the popcorn.
Duncan Idaho on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 6:14 pm
Big possibility of circuit breaker tomorrow.
It is over the Fat Boy’s head, and his Thugs are good at ripping people off, but not the brightest porch lights on the block.
We shall see—-
makati1 on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 6:27 pm
Duncan, from other headlines, I think it is sure bet that the US is in deep shit. I think the US caused virus, that was to take down China, backfired. The Fed is out of bullets and the president’s bullshit is becoming obvious even to the deniers.
I would also bet that the coronavirus deaths began long before they started to report them so the numbers are fake and are really much, much higher.
Nothing I can do to help my family but watch from safe, warm shores, and offer them a home here until this shit blows over in a few years, maybe. Sigh.
FuelShortageComing on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 6:28 pm
It might never reopen. You money is now frozen in the stock market. You cannot access it anymore. Money and gold is now useless because of the supply chain disruption. Stores shelve are empty.
The only way for one to stay alive is to steal from others. Manufacturing goods like TP, motor oil are now more valuable then money. Bartering is the new economical system under which we are now living.
I just cannot believe are amateurish this rate cut to 0% was. We are not managed by stupid people, we are managed by mental ill people. It is even worst that I thought
Davy on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 6:36 pm
“The source of an article may tell you the spin, but it may also tell you the truth, Davy. Does the possibility that what is now taking down the US might just have originated there and backfired? I think it did.”
makato, mr brilliance, please tell me what part of the article of misinformation proves the assertion you want so desperately to be true. Please pick out some of it. I want to get to the bottom of who did this. I want solid evidence not nutter regurgitations. The reality is any nation involved with bio weapons, bio engineering, and even geo engineering is culpable. Just don’t do your desperate global research bullshit that has no traction anywhere at the moment. Even the Chinese officials pushing this conspiracy has gone cold. You know why??? The Chinese ambassador was called in over it and I imagine the Americans threatened to let out what they know for all to see so the Chinese STFU. I would not put it past the Americans, Israelis, Russians, or Chinese. The terrorist of the world might have done this too. Eco crazies might have done it. Most likely it was a Chinese fuck up. All logical evidence points to it. I doubt it was an animal to human thing either. This has the hallmarks of a pathogen enticed and managed to be very virulent. Maybe not genetically modified but almost as good.
Davy on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 6:40 pm
Chinese Scientists Find Coronavirus Did Not Originate In Wuhan Seafood Market
https://tinyurl.com/sp56dv2 zero hedge
It is also worth noting that at the same time that even China was questioning the official narrative, the NY Post published an article which sound vaguely familiar: “Don’t buy China’s story: The coronavirus may have leaked from a lab” in which the author writes “the evidence points to SARS-CoV-2 research being carried out at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The virus may have been carried out of the lab by an infected worker or crossed over into humans when they unknowingly dined on a lab animal. Whatever the vector, Beijing authorities are now clearly scrambling to correct the serious problems with the way their labs handle deadly pathogens.” The conclusion: “China has unleashed a plague on its own people. It’s too early to say how many in China and other countries will ultimately die for the failures of their country’s state-run microbiology labs, but the human cost will be high.” While that conclusion is most likely accurate, the question now is who gets the blame, and why the sudden change in the official Chinese narrative. If, indeed, it is now Xi Jinping’s intention to shift attention away from Beijing’s disastrous handling of the pandemic and pin the blame on someone else, there is only one entity that he can choose: the Level 4 microbiology lab that is equipped to handle deadly coronaviruses, called the National Biosafety Laboratory, which – as we first pointed out several weeks ago – is part of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Davy on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 6:41 pm
“Coronavirus “Lab Leakage” Rumors Spreading”
https://tinyurl.com/s67qjz6 asia times
“The Wuhan Institute of Virology, located in the provincial capital of Hubei, which is the ground zero of the contagion, has been thrust into the media spotlight by the allegation last week that it leaked “bio-hazardous agents.” Posts circulating on WeChat and Weibo claim that a researcher at the institute was the first to be infected by the novel coronavirus, now called Covid-19 by the World Health Organization. The female virologist and a graduate from the institute, referred to as “patient zero,” had never visited the city’s shambolic wet market – also known as the “zoo” – where a range of wild animals were sold. The market has been identified by the authorities as the most probable source of the deadly pathogen… Also, a paper that appeared in the prestigious medical journal The Lancet at the end of last month has lent credibility to speculation about the origins of the virus. The paper quoted seven doctors at Wuhan’s Jinyintan Hospital as saying that the first patient admitted on December 1 had “never been to the wet market,” nor had there been any epidemiological link between the first patient and subsequent infection cases, based on the data from the first 41 patients treated there. Furthermore, a note from the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology is seen as a tacit admission that some kind of incident may have occurred at the Wuhan lab. On Saturday, the ministry issued a directive mandating more stringent handling of viruses and bioagents by all labs and research institutes. The document alluded to the slack oversight and management rampant at some facilities, and stressed that protection and decontamination must be beefed up now that more labs across the nation are intensifying their efforts to develop medicines to treat it and a vaccine to prevent it.”
Davy on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 6:42 pm
“What Are The Odds?” – A Timeline Of Facts Linking Covid-19, HIV, & Wuhan’s Secret Bio-Lab”
https://tinyurl.com/sj68kuf zero hedge
“Having been permanently banned from Twitter for sharing the publicly-available details of the man who ran the show as far a bat-soup virology in Wuhan’s super-secret bio-lab – which is now a common talking point and rapidly shifting from conspiracy theory to conspiracy fact – we thought a reminder of how we got here was in order… Scott Burke, CEO of crypto-related firm Groundhog, unleashed what we feel may be the most complete timelines of facts to help understand the controversial links between COVID-19 and HIV, and COVID-19 and Wuhan Institute of Virology…A disclaimer: I am not a virologist. This is me synthesizing what we have learned since the outbreak began and reviewing public scientific papers. I believe each of the following statements is a solid fact, backed up by a citation. I also want to say that I understand some people are worried about blame being cast for this outbreak. Obviously we are all in this together, and my intention here is not to cast blame. These links overwhelmingly compel further scrutiny, but are not conclusive.”
“So there’s original SARS, which is a type of coronavirus. SARS infects cells through the ACE2 receptor in hosts…They decided to create a pseudovirus where they essentially put a SARS-like CoV in a HIV envelope. It worked. Using an HIV envelope, they replaced the RBD (receptor binding domain) of SL-CoV with that of SARS-CoV, and used it to successfully infect bats through ACE2 mediation. 12 years goes by…A SARS-like CoV begins sweeping the globe that is far more infectious than previous outbreaks. Ground Zero for this outbreak (not first human patient, but first spreading event) is considered to be Wuhan Seafood Market. Wuhan Seafood Market is 20 miles from the National Biosafety Laboratory at Wuhan Institute of Virology…COVID-19 has a unique sequence about 1,378 nucleotide base pairs long that is not found in related coronaviruses. They claimed to identify genetic similarities in this unique material between COVID-19 and HIV-1. Specifically, they isolated 4 short genetic sequences in key protein structures (the receptor binding domain, or RBD)… One key debunking attempt claims this: The same sequences are found in a variant called BetaCoV/bat/Yunnan/RaTG13/2013, which had been found “in the wild” in bats. This is an attempt to prove that it was not engineered, but mutated naturally in the wild. But there’s a problem…This strain was only known by and studied at the Wuhan Virology Institute, and although they claim it was discovered in 2013, it wasn’t published or shared with the scientific community until immediately after the Indian paper, on January 27, 2020…What are the odds that a SARS-like coronavirus with overlapping genetics from HIV mutated and crossed over into humans, next door to a laboratory which had been enhancing coronavirus with HIV for over a decade? And conversely, what are the odds it leaked out of the laboratory? Finally, there is a great thread here by Trevor Bedford (@trvrb) examining the evidence for and against, with key replies challenging the conclusions made as well.”
Davy on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 6:47 pm
“Creator Of US BioWeapons Act Says Coronavirus Is Biological Warfare Weapon”
“In an explosive interview Dr. Francis Boyle, who drafted the Biological Weapons Act has given a detailed statement admitting that the 2019 Wuhan Coronavirus is an offensive Biological Warfare Weapon and that the World Health Organization (WHO) already knows about it…In an exclusive interview given to Geopolitics and Empire, Dr. Boyle discusses the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, China and the Biosafety Level 4 laboratory (BSL-4) from which he believes the infectious disease escaped. He believes the virus is potentially lethal and an offensive biological warfare weapon or dual-use biowarfare weapons agent genetically modified with gain of function properties, which is why the Chinese government originally tried to cover it up and is now taking drastic measures to contain it.”
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Davy on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 6:48 pm
“Did China’s Tencent Accidentally Leak The True Terrifying Coronavirus Statistics”
https://tinyurl.com/vwnbk2n zero hedge
“Ten days ago, shortly after China first started reporting the cases and deaths associated with the coronavirus epidemic, a UK researcher predicted that over 250,000 Chinese would be infected with the virus by February 4. And while according to official Chinese data, the number of infections has indeed soared in the past two weeks, at just under 25,000 (and roughly 500 deaths), it is a far cry from this dismal prediction, about ten times below that predicted by the epidemiologists…As the Taiwan Times reports in a report first spotted by user @TheHKGroup, over the weekend, Tencent “seems to have inadvertently released what is potentially the actual number of infections and deaths, which were astronomically higher than official figures”, and were far closer to the catastrophic epidemic projections made by Jonathan Read. According to the report, late on Saturday evening, Tencent, on its webpage titled “Epidemic Situation Tracker”, showed confirmed cases of novel coronavirus (2019nCoV) in China as standing at 154,023, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure. And while the number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300, most ominously, the death toll listed was 24,589, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day…We leave it up to readers, but keep this in mind: on Jan 29, Zeng Guang, the chief scientist of epidemiology at China’s CDC, made a rare candid admission about why Chinese officials cannot tell people the truth in an interview with the state-run tabloid Global Times: “The officials need to think about the political angle and social stability in order to keep their positions.” And then, on Monday, none other than China Xi’s called on all officials to quickly work together to contain the Coronavirus at a rare meeting of top leaders, saying the outcome would “directly impact social stability in the country.”
Davy on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 6:50 pm
“Smoking Gun? Chinese Scientist Finds “Killer Coronavirus Probably Originated From A Laboratory In Wuhan”
https://tinyurl.com/sdo7mlr zero hedge
“That has now changed, however, with what may be a “smoking gun” report, first noted by Harvard to the big house, from a scientist at the prestigious South China University of Technology in Guangzhou China. A pre-print published by Botao Xiao and Lei Xiao, titled “The possible origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus” whose abstract is the following…The 2019-nCoV has caused an epidemic of 28,060 laboratory-confirmed infections in human including 564 deaths in China by February 6, 2020. Two descriptions of the virus published on Nature this week indicated that the genome sequences from patients were almost identical to the Bat CoV ZC45 coronavirus. It was critical to study where the pathogen came from and how it passed onto human. An article published on The Lancet reported that 27 of 41 infected patients were found to have contact with the Huanan Seafood Market in Wuhan. We noted two laboratories conducting research on bat coronavirus in Wuhan, one of which was only 280 meters from the seafood market. We briefly examined the histories of the laboratories and proposed that the coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory. Our proposal provided an alternative origin of the coronavirus in addition to natural recombination and intermediate host. … and an especially ominous conclusion: In summary, somebody was entangled with the evolution of 2019-nCoV coronavirus. In addition to origins of natural recombination and intermediate host, the killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan…WHCDC hosted animals in laboratories for research purpose, one of which was specialized in pathogens collection and identification 4- 6. In one of their studies, 155 bats including Rhinolophus affinis were captured in Hubei province, and other 450 bats were captured in Zhejiang province 4. The expert in collection was noted in the Author Contributions (JHT). Moreover, he was broadcasted for collecting viruses on nation-wide newspapers and websites in 2017 and 2019 7,8. He described that he was once attacked by bats and the blood of a bat shot on his skin. He knew the extreme danger of the infection so he quarantined himself for 14 days 7. In another accident, he quarantined himself again because bats peed on him. He was once thrilled for capturing a bat carrying a live tick8. Surgery was performed on the caged animals and the tissue samples were collected for DNA and RNA extraction and sequencing 4, 5. The tissue samples and contaminated trashes were source of pathogens. They were only ~280 meters from the seafood market. The WHCDC was also adjacent to the Union Hospital (Figure 1, bottom) where the first group of doctors were infected during this epidemic. It is plausible that the virus leaked around and some of them contaminated the initial patients in this epidemic, though solid proofs are needed in future study. The second laboratory was ~12 kilometers from the seafood market and belonged to Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences 1, 9, 10. This laboratory reported that the Chinese horseshoe bats were natural reservoirs for the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) which caused the 2002-3 pandemic 9. The principle investigator participated in a project which generated a chimeric virus using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, and reported the potential for human emergence 10. A direct speculation was that SARS-CoV or its derivative might leak from the laboratory. In summary, somebody was entangled with the evolution of 2019-nCoV coronavirus. In addition to origins of natural recombination and intermediate host, the killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan. Safety level may need to be reinforced in high risk biohazardous laboratories. Regulations may be taken to relocate these laboratories far away from city center and other densely populated places.”
Davy on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 6:56 pm
“Fed Disaster: S&P Futures Crash, Halted Limit Down; Gold, Treasuries Soar After Historic Fed Panic”
https://tinyurl.com/vadllvv zero hedge
“The Fed may have a very big problem on its hands. After firing the biggest emergency “shock and awe” bazooka in Fed history, one which was meant to restore not just partial but full normalcy to asset and funding markets, Emini futures are not only not higher, but tumbling by the -5% limit down at the start of trading… perhaps because the Fed has not only tipped its hand that something is very wrong by simply waiting an additional three days until the March 18 FOMC, but that it can do nothing more to fix the underlying problem…In short, with the ES plunging limit down, this has been an absolutely catastrophic response to the Fed’s bazooka; expect negative interest rates across the curve momentarily.”
makati1 on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 9:14 pm
‘Cut and paste Davy’, no mind of his own so he copies other’s words verbatim. Not even a personal comment attached. Not that anyone bothers to read them. Ah well, what can you expect from a delusional Ozark Redneck goatherd? LOL
Nostradamus on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 9:14 pm
A conspiracy theory that Obama is orchestrating a takeover of the government. Kunstler has completely lost it.
Davy on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 9:18 pm
This obscure lame unmoderated forum is hilarious.
That’s why we make more comments hear then anybody else. And nobody hear gives a crap what we thinks.
stupid dumbasses
makati1 on Sun, 15th Mar 2020 9:22 pm
Nos, I see that setup as a good possibility, not a fringe idea. It has been mentioned elsewhere in recent months re Michelle (or is it Michael?) running, but as VP, it may be possible to put the senile mental case into office with her as VP and then…? The Amerikan freak show just gets more and more interesting!
BTW: I would hope they give her a genetic test to see if s/he is really female. Not that it would matter as they are all puppets to the oligarchs who actually run the country. But, with her running, it would get the black and female votes.
makati1 on Mon, 16th Mar 2020 12:46 am
“This obscure lame unmoderated forum is hilarious.” It’s the only place you spewed goatshit would be tolerated Davy.
Davy on Mon, 16th Mar 2020 4:33 am
“Cut and paste Davy’, no mind of his own so he copies other’s words verbatim. Not even a personal comment attached. Not that anyone bothers to read them. Ah well, what can you expect from a delusional Ozark Redneck goatherd? LOL”
What a dumb fuck, of course it is cut and pasted. It is called referencing data and sources. If I make a comment with my assertions you whine about that. BTW it was properly referenced unlike some idiots here do. I guess your one little global research article held no water did it compared to multiple sources that say this virus started in China likely from sloppiness.
JuanP on Mon, 16th Mar 2020 4:34 am
This obscure lame unmoderated forum is hilarious.
That’s why we make more comments hear then anybody else. And nobody hear gives a crap what we thinks.
stupid dumbasses
makati1 on Mon, 16th Mar 2020 4:34 am
“This obscure lame unmoderated forum is hilarious.” It’s the only place you spewed shit would be tolerated juanPee.
JuanP on Mon, 16th Mar 2020 4:35 am
A conspiracy theory that Obama is orchestrating a takeover of the government. Kunstler has completely lost it.
makati1 on Mon, 16th Mar 2020 4:35 am
JuanP, I see that setup as a good possibility, not a fringe idea. It has been mentioned elsewhere in recent months re Michelle (or is it Michael?) running, but as VP, it may be possible to put the senile mental case into office with her as VP and then…? The Amerikan freak show just gets more and more interesting!
BTW: I would hope they give her a genetic test to see if s/he is really female. Not that it would matter as they are all puppets to the oligarchs who actually run the country. But, with her running, it would get the black and female votes.