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China builds an ‘Ecological Civilization’ while the world burns
Record heat waves and massive forest fires are sounding the alarm – nature and humanity face an existential crisis. To avert the rapidly growing ecological crisis and adapt to the inevitable consequences of climate change, civilization is being urgently called on to act.
In one hopeful sign, an entire nation of 1.3 billion people, China, is accelerating steps to tackle the climate crisis and is on track to build an “ecological civilization.”
Development above all else
China has undergone staggering economic growth since 1978 when reforms introduced a socialist market economy and opened to the global capitalist economy. China has lifted 700 million people from poverty, surpassed the U.S. in retail sales and within a decade will become the world’s largest economy.
Until the last few years economic development overrode every other consideration. Consequently, China paid an enormous price, above all else in environmental destruction. Greenhouse gas emissions skyrocketed, cities were choked with air pollution, and toxic wastes contaminated soil and water.
Severe environmental degradation from underdevelopment occurred even before the economic reforms of 1978. That same year, China extracted 618 million tons of raw coal, much of it consumed as household fuel. Coal consumed in the inefficient industrial process was mostly wasted. Both produced enormous pollution and acid rain from burning coal contaminated fresh water and soil over vast stretches.
In addition, desertification, soil erosion and lack of conservation decimated agricultural land and fishing grounds. Conversely valuable grasslands and forests were lost through conversion to farms.
Clearcutting took place without reforestation and households burned much of the wood. Dams and water pollution caused fish stocks to plummet.
In addition, China had few trained ecologists to assess the destruction and develop sensible conservation policies.
For industrialization and modernization to succeed, these enormous problems had to be addressed. Even though a legal framework for environmental protection began developing in the 1980s, laws were largely ignored by foreign and domestic corporations in their drive for profit. Local governments seeking to attract and keep investment often looked the other way.
By moving so many of their operations to China and other developing countries, transnational corporations socialized and exported the costs of environmental destruction, reaping tremendous profits in the process.
Introducing the car culture created unbearable pollution in major cities. Smog caused as many as 1.6 million premature deaths each year.
Over the past 25 years China became the world’s dumping ground, receiving 25 percent of global plastic and paper scrap. The plastic waste stream finds its way to the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, including from four Chinese Rivers among the top ten emptying into the Pacific Ocean.
(China announced in January 2018, it would no longer import plastic waste from US and EU which has set off a mad scramble by the transnational waste corporations to find a new dumping ground.)
“According to a study published by the Ministry of Land and Resources in 2015, as many as 100,000 industrial companies had closed or relocated since 2001, leaving behind huge amounts of untreated waste. Heavy metals contaminated about 8 per cent of China’s arable land.
China’s international reputation suffered along with the environment. The fact that China was a socialist oriented state did not guarantee a path of sustainable development.
Environmental movement and response
The ravages of development were plain to see and millions expressed their displeasure. It took a growing eco-consciousness and environmental movement in the 1990s and a response by Communist Party of China (CPC) and government leaders to insist that environmental protection laws be enforced and that new protections created.
Scores of environmental NGOs were established, including Friends of Nature, which led the first nationwide campaign to save the Tibetan antelope. Other early victories included the scuttling of the Nujiang River and Tiger Leaping Gorge dam projects. The latter movement was started by farmers who would have been driven from the land.
Environmental groups began springing up on university campuses, often initiated by chapters of the Communist Youth League.
Today, environmental groups number in the thousands and are active at every level. “Environmental protection is a common concern of humanity,” said Wu Dengming of Chongqing Green Volunteer Association. “It has no discrimination of ethnicity, nationality, political systems, or class. We must not be divided. Only with everyone’s efforts can we save our Earth.”
China’s mass media is increasingly putting the spotlight on environmental problems, a practice pioneered by investigative journalists like Liu Jianqiang.
The CPC carefully studied the experience of the USSR, which promoted eco-socialism early in its development but adopted environmentally destructive policies during the Stalin years. After his death, eco-friendly policies began being reinstituted and expanded over the last 30 years of the USSR’s existence. Environmental movements surged and Soviet scientists made pioneering contributions to the founding of climate science and global ecology.
The CPC realized environmental degradation was a threat to socialist development and the well-being of the Chinese people. It also drew from the rediscovery of the ecological writings of Marx and the further development of ecological Marxism, including the legacy of Soviet Marxism. Scholars combined this with traditional Chinese culture based on the intrinsic harmony between humans and nature.
Ecological Marxism is a correction of theoretical errors that trumpeted “man over nature.” Ecological Marxism sees society and humanity as part of nature. Development and sustainability go hand in hand.
In remarks to the CPC leadership in 2013, President Xi Jinping said, “We will never again seek economic growth at the cost of the environment.”
More recently, Xi stressed “To protect ecological environment is to protect [the] productive force. To improve ecological environment is to develop productive force. A good ecological environment is the most just public product, one that most fully promotes the well-being of all the people.”
China has committed to a sustainable path and building an “ecological civilization” as a national strategy since the 17th CPC Congress in 2007. The goal is to form “an energy and resource efficient, environmentally friendly structure of industries, pattern of growth, and mode of consumption.”
The concept of “ecological civilization construction” was added to the CPC constitution during the 18th CPC Congress in 2012. It was placed on par with “economic, political, cultural and social progress.”
The adoption of several reforms in 2015 to accelerate the process “address many of the country’s major environmental issues. Proposals cover protection of natural resource rights; establishment of a national parks system; better and stricter systems for protection of arable land and water resources management; establishment of a green financing system; and improvement of environmental compensation mechanisms.”
Only an eco-socialist oriented society can move with such unity, purpose and speed toward sustainability. It helps that government and CPC leaders are deeply committed to building the ecological civilization and helping drive this process, including President Xi and Premier Li Keqiang.
Consequently, the CPC initiated a “war on pollution” just like its “war on poverty” which will be eliminated entirely in the next 3-5 years. With an overall economic slowdown, the priority has shifted from quantity to quality in production, environmental protection, and becoming a global leader in the fight against the climate crisis.
A law passed in 2014 to reduce CO2 emissions from coal power plants has resulted in a 14 percent reduction as of June 2018.
New measures adopted in May, 2018 will result in “comprehensive recycling” of hard waste materials. China is one of a few countries to pass laws and develop a strategy to create a circular economy (reuse, recycling and remanufacturing).
The ministry of Ecology and Environment has identified 9 million sources of pollution, 7.4 million of them being from industrial sources.
China is doubling the previous target for solar power production by 2020 and is the largest producer of solar panels in the world.
Coal consumption peaked in 2016 and plans were halted to build 150 coal-fired plants. Installation of desulfurization and denitration filters on the remaining plants is nearly complete. Some plants have been brought online to address a surge in energy demand and CO2 emissions have increased. However, China has a coal power overcapacity and must reduce it in the long run.
China initiated the world’s largest emission trading system, first directed at power generation plants and extended to the entire economy by 2020. Experts believe the system will allow China to reach peak C02 emission targets (the level at which the Earth’s temperature rise can be halted at 2 degrees C) far earlier than the 2030 goal. And in fact, China reached its 2020 carbon intensity target three years ahead of schedule.
“The world has never before seen a climate program on this scale,” said Environmental Defense Fund president Fred Krupp. “It is important that the world’s largest emitter should lead on climate, and that is precisely what China is doing by launching its national emissions trading system. China has stepped up its climate leadership dramatically in recent years, and is now increasingly seen as filling the leadership void left by the U.S.”
Motor vehicles are the largest source of pollution in Chinese cities, but perhaps not for long. China produced more all-electric cars, buses and trucks than the rest of the world combined and production is growing faster than the rest of the world too. In a city I visited, Shenzhen, the entire fleet of 16,000 buses is electric. The government will install over 500,000 public charging piles across the country by 2020.
A 35,000-kilometer high-speed train network is half complete. The network is greater than that built by the rest of world combined and will allow people to commute longer distances. The second generation of high-speed trains are completely designed and built in China. I can personally attest to their sleek design and smooth and quiet ride. (story continues after video)
China is the biggest wind turbine producer in the world. The country is constructing 6 mega wind farms and in 2016 installed half the world’s new wind power.
China is carrying out the largest reforestation project in the world. Bad practices had been reduced forest coverage to just 17 percent of China by the late 1970s. By 2017, over 22 percent of the country was covered and it will be increased to 26 percent by 2035.
This year, a mammoth project to reforest an area the size of Ireland is taking place. To do this, 60,000 soldiers from the People’s Liberation Army have been reassigned to plant trees.
A few years ago, regular sandstorms originating in Inner Mongolia plagued Beijing. The sandstorms have largely been contained by planting a Great Green Wall.
Industrialization meant not only massive pollution but urbanization of populations, which increased from 26 percent of the population to over 52 percent between 1991 and 2012.
Such rapid and massive development brought a myriad of environmental problems. In response, urban planners began developing the concept of Eco-cities, which will “bridge the human/nature divide, pollute less, use fewer resources, emit lower amounts of carbon, use renewable energy, recycle more, have a higher percentage of energy-efficient buildings, are set up for lower-carbon means of transport, and are posited as models for the way humanity will live next.”
Over 285 eco-cities are under construction or change.
Large parts of the cities I visited were full of greenery (planting trees is an old Chinese custom) and on a bus ride to Xiaogang Village from Hefei a band of trees 75 feet wide on both sides line the 50-mile highway. Rooftop solar panels power many homes.
At the 19th CPC Congress in October 2018, Xi called for accelerating the pace of change and to “step up efforts to establish a legal and policy framework … that facilitates green, low-carbon, and circular development,” to “promote afforestation,” “strengthen wetland conservation and restoration” and “take tough steps to stop and punish all activities that damage the environment.”
As the Trump administration ignores majority world opinion and pleas from the scientific community, withdraws from the Paris Climate Agreement, dismantles the EPA and regulations imposed by the Obama administration, and undercuts the shift toward renewable energy, China is thinking and acting big. This should give some hope the Earth and its inhabitants have a future.
39 Comments on "China builds an ‘Ecological Civilization’ while the world burns"
Davy on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 8:02 am
I see signs of the status quo in China which is any alternative energy and conservation push being more than made up for by further fossil fuel energy growth and environmental destruction. Coal may be leveling off but gas is taking up more of the slack than renewables. China is actually slowing its renewable buildout. There are plenty of articles on stranded renewable power locations where the grid cannot handle what has been built. A place like China will likely never get ahead of the energy/growth curve until growth ends. There is too much growth of all kinds going on and when or if growth slow down it will likely be dirty fossil fuels that are turned to.
This article should have showcased Europe where the real effort is and a chance for a partial transformation. It is my opinion a renewable transition is not technically possible or economically feasible. A transformation is possible and likely if the global economy can avoid a severe correction. We have no choice but to move to incorporated renewables into our energy systems where the sweet spots occur. Depletion and environmental degradation do not sleep and growth has not abated. These sweet spots areas are well documented. Technology across the board is improving although nowhere near the hype. The trump card is the economy. These new systems are expensive to build and adapt to the grid. Storage technology and strategies are largely undeveloped yet and where the real cost constraints will be.
Behavior is not changing fast enough. We still want to live a 20th century life in the new realities of a 21st century world. To fully utilize a high renewable penetrated grid we need to adapt to intermittency. Conservation and demand management strategies are essential to make full utilization of the potentials of renewables. Renewables in a status quo fossil fuel world suffer without these strategies. In a status quo behavior world of on demand power fossil fuel backup is required which greatly raises the cost of the initial renewable investment. We still have leadership issues and market issues retarding a full court press with renewables. The US is case in point with the Trump team.
There are tradeoffs we are not willing to take yet. It is unclear if these tradeoffs are feasible to be fair to market forces and leadership. How far can we take the destructive change of renewables to our fossil fuel built world? What will be creative destruction and what will be destructive change and which of these can prevail is the key to the future. Our global economy is not healthy so this tension has to be thought through. This energy transformation will likely be man’s last and will be the greatest experiment mankind has undertaken. The reason for this epic drama is because the fate of our late term civilization rests on its success of defeat for our very survival. In the past energy transitions or transformations were further development and now today it is survival. Personally I see this last energy push as the last gulp of air before we sink under the waves. If we can have all this happen slowly over time we can manage our ultimate end with more years. This will do nothing for our climate disaster and the extinction process. These in my opinion have taken on a life of their own.
fmr-paultard on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 8:23 am
i don’t see why tards hate supertard so much considering the comment has nothing to do with nazism. supertard is sufficiently slightly nazi but not nazi enough for them. but hey sometimes you gotta to club the seal to satisfy the empty stomach or you can’t move forward and out of danger. the problem with nazi tards SENTPAPBs is that they want to spend their whole life waking hours clubbing seals.
Sissyfuss on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 9:55 am
At least China is addressing the most pressing problems our species is encountering whereas the US under President Sleazebag is increasing its environment wrecking practices. The Chinese are an anomaly in that they are one of the few nations taking the long view in their collective vision. Being thousands of years in existence allows them their perspective while the infants of nations act out in spoiled and selfish tantrums that lead to perdition.
JuanP on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 10:03 am
Siss “The Chinese are an anomaly in that they are one of the few nations taking the long view in their collective vision.”
I agree. Their culture being so old is definitely a factor. And I also think that the fact that they are a meritocracy instead of a democracy helps them, too. The Chinese have one of the most efficient and effective governments in the world. It is particularly surprising when you consider the size of their country and their humongous population.
JuanP on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 10:09 am
You have to love any country that puts its soldiers to plant trees. China is a global leader in fighting desertification and greening the deserts.
fmr-paultard on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 10:47 am
whoa the tard is foar china now! unbelievable.
We’re told Putin is the icon to emulate like Muhammad and now Comrade Xi is the model. it’s flip flopping ad nauseum. Before that we told to emulate richard spencer. alt-tard media is dizzling and it’s causing alt-tard media fatigue.
‘We Cannot Afford This’: Malaysia Pushes Back Against China’s Vision
A country that once courted Chinese investment now fears becoming overly indebted for big projects that are neither viable nor necessary — except to China.
Oh ok so china plant some chia pets and tards get excited. they dont’ get excited when china go overseas and destroy other places
JuanP on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 11:04 am
Fmr, I am not flip flopping. I have always said that Putin and Xi are my two favorite political leaders in the world. I don’t have to like one or the other; I can like both. I think both of them are smart and effective leaders that have their respective nation’s best interests at heart. I wish we could have leaders like that in the West, but there is not a single one on this side of the planet. Those two seem to be the exception to the rule in today’s world.
Anonymouse1 on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 1:53 pm
The ‘old’ china had the right idea when many people rode bikes to get around. The population was healthier and more robust as an added bonus.
It’s nice that China is producing all those electric buses, or is it? How are all green eco-friendly Ebuses powered? Turns out they are actually COAL-powered buses, Oppps! Not so green after all……
Maybe China should have invested all of its new found wealth in electric surface trams and other forms of electric surface RAIL transit, not E-buses, or freeways and car dependency. OR, they could have just kept their bikes, that would have worked to.
Its not clear how HSR qualifies as ‘green’ either. It is arguably better than building say, an 8 lane freeway, but dont be surprised if the China builds both lol. But HSR by itself, is not particularly ‘green’. Good old ‘regular’ rail would accomplish the same goals, with far less energy consumed, but, the author has lumped it in there with all the other pseudo-green saviors, like EVs, E-buses and so on, so, there you have it.
PSA: Davyturd is in the middle of a severe, and ongoing, mental breakdown. If you, or anyone knows this dumbass, please contact the Missishiti dept of mental health and let them know he is a danger to himself, his goats, and possibly others rednecks and shack-dwellers. Or, call Dr Joyce Brothers. Like the exceptionlturd, her credentials are highly suspect as well.
That works too.
Davy on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 2:07 pm
asperger, why stir shit up. Should I call you the tourette troll too. I mean you can’t help yourself you just got to troll the fire if it looks like it is smouldering. It is people like you that ruin this board.
BTW, I will document the upper part of your comment as legit. It only took you 25 friggin days to make a normal intelligent comment even though this comment was a hybrid of trolling and a comment.
Boat on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 3:04 pm
That bike riding China lost around 50 million due to famine after WWII. This is what amouse calls robust health. Lol
That boy had a wild world view. Canada has the population of 2 large Chinese cities. The scale of energy China needs and it’s solutions are beyond the grasp of a Muslim/Canadian world hater.
Anonymouse1 on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 3:20 pm
ROLF two retards for the price of one. You know dumbass, I never thought of you as mentally retarded exceptionalturd, at least not in same way as boatretard here, a full-blown Jerry’s kid. Being mentally challenged, is not the same as being well..insane. But there are times, when, it is rather hard to tell with you, especially of late.
However, lately, davyturd, you seem to slowly drifting more and more into the retard category. It could boatietard here, recognizes this on some level, and, is possibly a little jealous?, since he has long marked out the coveted, retard\ village idiot territory as his own.
Now boatretard here, if he were not legally and clinically, retarded like he is, would, probably be almost impossible to tell apart from you. The only thing that would set you two apart, would be that his horrible grammar and jaw-dropping innumeracy.
Dumbass(es) LoL
Document that, mental case.
Cloggie on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 3:23 pm
2nd post todat that disappears, try again:
Europe intends to increase decarbonization speed: 45% rather than 40% less CO2 in 2030 as compared to reference year 1990:
GregT on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 3:25 pm
“BTW, I will document the upper part of your comment as legit.”
Hilarious! You just can’t make this stuff up.
Antius on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 3:40 pm
“ROLF two retards for the price of one.”
Don’t you mean ROFL, Anonymouse? If you are going to throw around insults like ‘retard’ you need to be beyond reproach 🙂
Davy on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 3:43 pm
Greggie, sure enough comes to Tourette’s assistance because Greggie will never let a good troll go to waste. If you are going to support and enable a troll then step up for another round. I have made an effort today for others to contribute without the bitch fest. You could do likewise.
fmr-paultard on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 3:44 pm
assperger why u start sh*t with supertard anyway? i read dailymail so you can comment there as well
Anonymouse1 on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 3:46 pm
Yea, I was loling so hard at retardo’s latest it was hard to stay focused.
Antius on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 3:49 pm
China consumes as much coal as the rest of the world combined. It’s industrial model is based on cheap energy; cheap transport; enormous economies of scale; low-cost labour and a near absence of any kind of regulation, which does make industrialization quite straightforward. The past twenty years of Chinese economic development have been an environmental apocalypse.
One could not, in one’s wildest fantasies, describe China as any kind of ecological role model. It’s token investments in renewable energy are exactly that. Sticking feathers up your but does not make you a chicken.
GregT on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 3:51 pm
Making fun of other peoples’ disabilities isn’t the least bit funny Davy, and somehow I doubt very much that Anonymouse1 cares in the least about your little ‘documentation project’. The fact that you can’t quite figure that one out, IS funny. (in a pathetic kind of way)
Anonymouse1 on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 4:11 pm
I dont doubt that China does really want to clean up its act. There is a lot of public pressure in that country to address rampant pollution. People here just dont see that anymore than people in China people are aware of what people in your town or country find important.
The sinophobes and retards around here, of course, will tell you China is irredeemably corrupt and that the Chinese people just adore industrial pollution, and are too lazy, corrupt, and or stupid, to want to do anything about it. This is nonsense of course. Here in the best-country-in-the-world, the sky outside my home, is filled with smoke and haze from burning forests, 100s of km away, there is trash all over the place, cars and car congestion is omnipresent. As is homelessness, unaffordable housing, and the stores filled yes, but with a lot of expensive, and generally low-quality food. Mostly sourced from amerikas corrupt, agri-monopolies. We arent putting up many solar panels here, and there no E-buses to be seen plying the streets of my city, amerika, or its North amerikan colonies either. In my city, there is a discussion is about converting the old, long, unused rail lines that still exist, into bike and pedestrian paths.
Progress! Gota love it.
PSA: Davyturd is in the middle of a severe, and ongoing, mental breakdown. If you, or anyone knows this dumbass, please contact the Missishiti dept of mental health and let them know he is a danger to himself, his goats, and possibly other rednecks and shack-dwellers. He is definately a danger to goats. Or, call Dr Joyce Brothers. Like the exceptionlturd, her credentials are highly suspect as well.
That works too.
Anonymouse1 on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 4:17 pm
The only one suffering from a ‘disability’ here, is the exceptionalturd. His primary disability, lies somewhere between his ears.
No wait, there boatietard as well, (severe mental retardation). Yea its a tragedy (sad-face), make that two lifeforms suffering from awful, yet, similar disabilities.
Davy on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 4:39 pm
Startling shit Greggie just annoys people who want a comment thread without the bitch fest but you could give a shit. This is how you operate you just lay in wait for an opportunity to troll. Your buddy started this shit and you chimed in now it will be another bitch fest night out with the extremist and the gimp.
GregT on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 4:54 pm
Not starting shit Davy, just pointing out a couple of facts. Making fun of other peoples’ disabilities is not funny, at all, and your little documentation project is purely delusional. What you choose to do with that info is your choice, but both reflect very poorly on your state of mental health.
Davy on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 4:56 pm
Gimp, did you eat your wheaties today because at least you are offering some kind of comments. I guess this happens after 25 days and you suddenly find some mental energy. Maybe you laid off the Xbox and your mind got out of its zombie state. Your comment is still stupid west coast Canadian extremism. You must hate the fact the Chinese are buying up your best real estate so unemployed basement dwellers like you will never have a home and a family. Maybe that is why you are so bitter. What a horrible dull life you must have.
Davy on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 5:00 pm
Greggie, shut up you make fun of people all the time. How many times have you called someone retarded? Right. Maybe I will start documenting your bad behavior you point fingers at others about. I think you are one bored sorry ass person with a stupid life. This is why you come here to troll. You have not made one comment today just your usual trolling.
GregT on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 5:06 pm
“I think you are one bored sorry ass person with a stupid life. This is why you come here to troll.”
As per usual, purely delusional. That’s quite the fantastic little imagination you have there Davy.
Davy on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 5:11 pm
Your action here say otherwise. People that spend the day trolling like you and the gimp obviously don’t have much of a life.
MASTERMIND on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 5:21 pm
Clogg
I bet its the “deep state” that is deleting your post’s because they don’t want people to know the real “truth”..
You are a paranoid low iq nut job!
LMFAO!
MASTERMIND on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 5:22 pm
Credit Suisse freezes $5 billion of Russian money due to U.S. sanctions
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-credit-suisse-gp-sanctions/credit-suisse-freezes-5-billion-of-russian-money-due-to-u-s-sanctions-idUSKCN1L71LR?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5b7dbc1a04d3013589a524c7&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
HAHAH! Our money now Putin..Keep dancing you faggot!
GregT on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 5:40 pm
“People that spend the day trolling like you and the gimp obviously don’t have much of a life.”
You know next to nothing at all about my life Davy, obviously.
A couple of questions for you;
Do you honestly believe that anybody gives a rat’s ass whether you ‘document’ their comments or not?
Do you honestly think that it is humerous to make fun of people with disabilities? Women? People of different races? Nationalities? Etc?
Anonymouse1 on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 5:51 pm
exceptionalturd, could you, and your sock here, just…go away? If you want to post irrelevant , rambling incoherent nonsense all day long, here is what you can do. Pay attention now.
Go Wall-greens and buy a notebook. And what it called, a ‘pen’. Then you can fill it(the notebook) with all manner of conversations. You can call people ‘stupid’ or ‘exterme’, you can even act as moderator of sorts, for running series of conversations that take place entirely in your own mind. Hell, you can even ban people, or better yet, DEPORT ‘people’, yeah, thats the ticket deport them, when they say things or point out facts you find disagreeable.
And when you ‘ban’ someone, just create a new, more agreeable person to take their place. Easy as pie. And it will keep you busy and occupied for a good long while. Or at least until you completely snap.
No one will mind. You can even show these ‘documents’ to the doctors when the authorities (eventually), bring you in.
Always glad to help ya out, exceptionalturd.
Davy on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 5:58 pm
Greggie, the facts, you have said nothing intelligent today. You are doing the social media troll BS. Your stupid life is reflected on this board by your actions. You brag about yourself constantly and it is sickening. You struggle to form a comment. Usually it is short or
a copy and past like your famous humans and the exponential bullet point. Are you so stuck on yourself that you feel the need to be here to tell others how wonderful you are? Just say something intelligent. Stop enabling extremist. This place will be better if you do.
GregT on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 6:25 pm
“Greggie, the facts, you have said nothing intelligent today. You are doing the social media troll BS. Your stupid life is reflected on this board by your actions.”
You have never met me Davy, and know absolutely nothing about my ‘actions’.
“You brag about yourself constantly and it is sickening.”
I know far more about you Davy, then you know about me. You are the biggest braggart on this forum by far.
“You struggle to form a comment. Usually it is short or
a copy and past like your famous humans and the exponential bullet point.”
Just like everyone else on this unmoderated forum Davy, I am free to post whatever I like, whenever I feel like it.
“Are you so stuck on yourself that you feel the need to be here to tell others how wonderful you are? ”
You’re projecting again Davy.
“Just say something intelligent. Stop enabling extremist. This place will be better if you do.”
Without a doubt, you Davy, are the biggest extremist on this forum. You even believe that you have appointed yourself as ‘moderator’. How far out there is that?
LOL
GregT on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 7:00 pm
Two more questions for you Davy, which no doubt you won’t answer either, just like the other two questions I asked you above.
Do you honestly believe, that after five long years of your constant harassment against others, that people would simply bow down to your delusional bullshit?
Or, do you have the intilectual capacity to comprehend that people would eventually get pissed off enough, that they would retaliate against that same said delusional bullshit of yours?
GregT on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 7:02 pm
Intellectual capacity.
Davy on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 7:16 pm
Stop your whining troll. The day was quiet and people were allowed to contribute then the west coast Canadian trolling got started. You have said nothing today. All you have done is troll and whine. You have no purpose here on this board except as noise. Show your comment stupid?? Where is a coherent contributing intelligent comment, dumbass? There is none and that is what matters. No one cares about your stupid hurt feelings. People want something of substance not whining.
GregT on Wed, 22nd Aug 2018 7:27 pm
On second thought……nevermind. Rhetorical questions, that are both self explanatory.
The retaliations will continue, indefinitely, apparently.
Cloggie on Thu, 23rd Aug 2018 1:21 am
ESA launches 480 million euro weather satellite Aeolus into orbit as a first step towards hyper-accurate weather prediction in the near future.
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/weltall/satellit-aeolus-gestartet-der-teuerste-windmesser-aller-zeiten-a-1224288.html
The real innovation is accurate wind speed measurement with laser. Picture Aeolus as the policeman with laser gun, measuring (wind) speeds in all directions, in 24 atmospheric layers, dividing the atmosphere of 30 km.
Cloggie on Thu, 23rd Aug 2018 1:26 am
EU forbids energy hungry halogen lighting:
http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/service/halogenlampen-produktionsverbot-tritt-zum-1-september-in-kraft-a-1224499.html
The expected energy saving in the EU will amount to the total energy consumption of Portugal.
LED uses five times less energy than halogen, hence the measure.