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In the first half of the 19th century, Russian writers created a kind of romantic anti-hero – a man of talents, education and sensitivity who is unable to find a place for himself in the contemporary world. Based on the title of Ivan Turgenev’s novel, this lot came to be called “superfluous men.”

I recently attended a lecture by an African-American artist Theaster Gates, who brought up this concept in a refreshing new way. In his work, which is centered on Chicago’s South Side, Gates recycles abandoned stuff – an unused schoolhouse, trees cut down at public parks, bricks from a demolished church, etc. He sees this as a metaphor for the black experience in America. Brought over as slaves to work Southern plantations, they were cast upon their own devices in an alien, hostile environment when slavery was abolished. Lured to the industrial North by the promise of good jobs in the first half of last century, they became marooned in urban ghettos when those jobs also disappeared. They became America’s “superfluous people” – except, in this case, not by choice.

In the 21st century, such involuntary human superfluity – if I may be allowed to invent the term – is becoming widespread, with ominous implications for the existing political system. The modern economy is evolving in a way that simply can’t meaningfully employ most of the people in the world. Meanwhile, the world population is projected to grow by another three and a half billion people – or nearly 50 percent – by the end of this century. In the developing world, superfluity has been a problem for a while and it is a key factor in the massive social and political turmoil in Muslim countries, making a number of them ungovernable.

Radical Islamic terrorism has impacted the West as well, but a far greater risk is presented by the superfluous people in the world’s leading military powers – in Russia, which is also the world’s largest land mass, and in the United States, which is sn indispensable nation for the global economy and political system.

In Russia, talk of “extra population” started around 2005, when revenues from oil exports began to flow in and an overvalued ruble made it cheaper to import rather than produce at home. This completed the destruction of the Soviet-era industrial base.

Back then it was said that Russia’s already shrinking population was 20 percent “too large” for the oil economy to provide adequate income. Even though the ruble has since dropped, there is little sign of Russia’s industrial base being rebuilt. In fact, other projections now put superfluity at 30 percent or more by mid-century.

The United States has a remarkably low unemployment rate – it stood at 4.2 percent in September – but it only serves to mask America’s own superfluity problem. The labor force participation rate fell from around 66 percent to 63 percent over the past decade, which represents at least 4-6 million people dropping out of the workforce. In addition, most jobs being created are low-paid, no-prestige service sector employment which can’t be considered a career and which often don’t even provide a living wage. And, as the 2008-09 financial crisis showed, such jobs can disappear overnight.

They will do so again the moment the current asset price bubble bursts.

These superfluous populations are starting to control the national agendas in the world’s two nuclear superpowers. In their domestic and international policies they are displaying traits typical of nations that do not have much a stake in preserving the status quo – i.e., rogue nations: recklessness, aggressiveness, disrespect for their weaker neighbors, disdain for the law and unpredictability.

The fact that this is happening in the United States is likely to spell the end of liberal democracy. It is fulfilled human beings who need liberal democracy. They are different and one of a kind; they are minorities by definition and need the protections provided by liberal democracy.

Superfluous people, on the other hand, tend to be more or less the same, or undifferentiated, regressing into a mob. They are filled with resentment for the world and are liable to fall for a dictator who channels their hatred.

Not surprisingly, people living in successful economies on both coasts of the United States remain unstintingly liberal, whereas most depressed regions of the interior have turned right-wing Trump cultists.

Superfluity cheapens human life. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union life has fallen in price in Russia and it remains horrifyingly cheap there. Note the carnage on Russian roads and the high murder rate. Human life is being wasted on a daily basis by alcoholism, drug addiction, the AIDS epidemic and generally low life expectancy which kills off Russian males in what should have been their most productive years.

Russian volunteers who poured into eastern Ukraine at the start of fighting there are the clearest example of the superfluous people and the low value of human life. The dead were often not identified and buried in unmarked graves.

Life is getting remarkably cheap in the United States as well. The country has become inured to gun violence on a scale unprecedented in civilized societies, such as massacres in New Town, Orlando and Las Vegas – to say nothing of daily mass shootings around the country involving at least four victims.

Add to this an opiate addiction that has become an epidemic not in inner cities but among once productive industrial workers.

Ironically, much of it has been predicted by Karl Marx. He saw this process as alienation and lumpenization of the working class. It is exactly what we are seeing both in Russia and the United States. Contrary to Marx’s prediction, however, the leadership of the two countries have come to reflect the vicious nihilism of their lumpenized constituencies.

The lumpenization of these two countries threatens world peace and, ultimately, the survival of the world, given their nuclear arsenals. Despite the seeming affinity of the two countries and their leaders, the lawless and reckless nature of the two regimes makes them more likely to go to war with third parties and, eventually, with each other. The risks are far greater now than when they were locked into the ideological battles of the Cold War.

kyivpost.com



39 Comments on "Superfluous people"

  1. Hello on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 4:40 pm 

    Everybody needs a purpose in society. Automation and AI degrades people to consumer bots.

    That won’t end well.

    (except in NL, of course, where innovation and off-shore wind will usher in a new golden century) 🙂

  2. Boat on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 4:52 pm 

    Hello,

    The world has too many humans. The world needs fewer humans. Bots will replace the need for as many humans and be more efficient. A win win.

  3. Hello on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 5:10 pm 

    Boat,

    Yes, the world needs fewer humans.
    I didn’t get your point regarding automation being win-win. Can you explain?

  4. Davy on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 5:41 pm 

    There are no “win win’s” anymore get a grip. There is only transfer in conquest and a commons of losing.

  5. JJHMAN on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 6:17 pm 

    This is the most important issue facing the world today but flies in the face of the values of every “advanced” society.

    These societies were created and entrenched in the values and even the language of society. Stepping back just a few feet it is easy to see what the conflict is: the core value of every advanced society is competition in the consumption of material goods.

    Unless human societies can get over the need to value life through excess consumption there is no hope for peace.

  6. JJHMAN on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 6:18 pm 

    kiyvpost? You hafta wonder who the heck is behind this, Russia?

  7. Davy on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 6:25 pm 

    Ukrainian I believe

  8. onlooker on Sun, 15th Oct 2017 7:00 pm 

    Superfluous people is another way of saying our population has overshot the carrying capacity of our host planet. By definition, not much we can do about it. To make things worse we have designed very unjust unequal socio/political/economic systems. So yes, people are brimming with dissatisfaction of a world entombed with so little hope for a decent life for so many. We need now urgently to united in our common plight. But that may not be possible given resource shortages.

  9. joe on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 12:30 am 

    They can go back to Africa, realise what a horrible place of ju ju and poverty that is, then pay isis to transport them to Europe with ‘euro dream’ of an easy life on social welfare, with unlimited sympathy from self hating euro whites with war apology complexes and all the little girls you and your muslim friends can rape.

  10. DerHundistlos on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 1:17 am 

    Even to the most obtuse observer, the global human population is far beyond overshoot. Yet, the US government is now enacting policies to encourage population growth. National and international funding for contraception and women’s health have been eliminated from the budget. The Republican war on women’s reproductive rights according to their so-called pro-life designation claims to protect the unborn until such time as a fetus breathes air and becomes a living human being. If you’re pro-life you should believe that all life is precious. Therefore, a person who claims to be pro-life should also oppose the death penalty; They should be wary of the U.S. getting tangled up in any conflicts abroad; And pro-lifers should care deeply about adopting environmental policies that will eliminate the present mass extinction crises. How to explain this hypocrisy?

  11. J. H. Wyoming on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 2:15 am 

    It’s not so much population has overshot, but rather automation is applying pressure in the opposite direction, i.e. it is applying pressure to reduce population. Look at the automation at Amazon with those floor robots moving products to people for shipment – it’s so efficient many retailers are going out of business.

    Of course people ignore the fact most will get part time service jobs and reproduce to even higher pop. numbers, but what happens when robots start taking over service jobs? Surely it won’t be many more years until a McDonald’s will be 95% automated – just plug in your order at the drive in pin pad (because you won’t be talking to someone), insert your CC, get a receipt, wait a few minutes and it will drop into a bin you’ll take a bag from. A manager is all that will be needed to refill the auto bun machine, etc. what happens to the dozens of people previously employed by one of those locations? More opiate usage, more gangs wars, more drug abuse, more alcoholism, more shootings, all resulting from lack of adequate income from employment.

    The super wealthy are so busy finding advantage they haven’t thought through what happens to the gangs of disadvantaged. Surely they won’t just take it forever. At some point they will rebel, right? They have enough brains to know they are being excised so the rich can make more money.

  12. J. H. Wyoming on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 2:20 am 

    How about this question;

    What do the homeless panhandlers do when no one has cash? In a cashless society there can’t be any panhandling.

  13. deadlykillerbeaz on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 4:15 am 

    There are always superfluous people, always were.

    Surplus people in England were shipped to America and became indentured servants.

    African people were shipped to the Americas and sold at auction.

    Native Americans were captured by Native Americans and sold at auction.

    Greeks owned people, Romans enslaved those goofy Christians.

    Egyptians owned slaves.

    Let my people go said Moses.

    Superfluous people everywhere, all the time.

    Might as well sell some of them. The South Sea Company will be a good name.

    You can always go to school or join the armed forces. No jobs, robots have all of them.

    I doubt universities are going to teach robots how to think. You need some people for some things. Nah, to hell with people.

    At this point in time, everybody is superfluous. Just have factories run by robots to build more robots and human life can cease to exist.

    Robots to mine the coal, drill for oil, build the factories and housing for the robots. Won’t need water, food, plumbing, none of that.

    No cows for milk, no chickens, all other life will be saved, all remaining life on earth will rejoice knowing humans are gone, never wanted them here in the first place.

    Just oil and coal for the energy sources, the resources, metals for machines, and electricity. Robots rule.

    Just a better world without people around anymore. They’re useless, no need for them.

    A navy ship with a robot for the admiral, robots to run the ship, no humans needed there either.

    No more human error. No more fubars. No more humans.

    There they were, gone. Good riddance!

    Time to drink.

  14. makati1 on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 4:55 am 

    J.H., in some of the SF books I have read, the beggars has a hand held machine that you punch in an amount an swipe your card. That might work. If the government can give out phones why not one with that feature? lol

  15. Davy on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 5:43 am 

    “There Are 2.7 Trillion Reasons Why Tesla Won’t Rule The World”
    http://tinyurl.com/y7gq5vag

    “But unfortunately, those incentives aren’t nearly enough to create the infrastructure to support Morgan Stanley’s forecast of 526 million electric vehicles operating globally by 2040. Building the charging stations and other infrastructure necessary would cost an astonishing $2.7 trillion, much of which would probably need to be allocated by governments. Morgan Stanley says the problem requires a mix of private and public funding across regions and sectors. The investment bank’s strategists added that any auto company or government with aggressive targets would be unfeasible unless the infrastructure is in place. As we’ve noted time and time again, the electric-vehicle industry is essentially being support by generous – and borderline anti-competitive – government subsidies. In China, which has aggressively pushed EVs as a potential remedy for its pollution problem, communist party officials have hit on an effective strategy for forcing consumers to favor electric vehicles. In Shanghai, where tens of thousands of people enter monthly lotteries for just a handful of license plates, consumers who buy electric cars are given license plates with little resistance. Morgan Stanley expects China to become the largest EV market in the world by 2040, accounting for about a third of global infrastructure spending, Bloomberg reports. But with Trump in office, it’s unlikely the US will prove so amendable to subsidizing Elon Musk’s ambitions for much longer.”

  16. Davy on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 5:52 am 

    “China’s Mortgage Debt Bubble Raises Spectre Of 2007 US Crisis”
    http://tinyurl.com/yd8wj6u3

    “In an inglorious echo of 2007 America, many young homeowners in booming cities owe more than they earn, and some even falsify salary details to get bigger mortgages…Young Chinese like Eli Mai, a sales manager in Guangzhou, and Wendy Wang, an executive in Shenzhen, are borrowing as much money as possible to buy boomtown flats even though they cannot afford the repayments

    “Rapid urbanisation, combined with unprecedented monetary easing in the past decade, has resulted in runaway property inflation in cities like Shenzhen, where home prices in many projects have doubled or even tripled in the past two years. City residents in their 20s and 30s view property as a one-way bet because they’ve never known prices to drop. At the same time, property inflation has seen the real purchasing power of their money rapidly diminish. “Almost all my friends born since the 1980s and 1990s are racing to buy homes, while those who already have one are planning to buy a second,” Mai, 33, said. “Very few can be at ease when seeing rents and home prices rise so strongly, and they will continue to rise in a scary way.”

    “The rush of millions young middle-class Chinese like Mai into the property market has created a hysteria that eerily resembles the housing crisis that struck the United States a decade ago. Thanks to the easy credit that has spurred the housing boom, many young Chinese have abandoned the frugal traditions of earlier generations and now lead a lifestyle beyond their financial means. The build-up of household and other debt in China has also sparked widespread concern about the health of the world’s second largest economy.”

    “The result has been skyrocketing housing prices in Shenzhen, Beijing and Shanghai, where property prices can match those in Hong Kong or London. The lesson was that “if you don’t buy a flat today, you will never be able to afford it”, Wang, 29, said. Property ownership was now increasingly what separated the rich and the poor, the haves and have-nots, and the privileged and the underdogs, she said. And that means young people like Mai and Wang are scrambling for credit to buy property.”

  17. Seasons on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 7:18 am 

    the mob is not the “superfluous man”, although the mob may be superfluous.
    the writer completely misunderstands the literary archetype.

  18. Revi on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 7:50 am 

    Great article. Very scary. I think people have to make their own meaning. Occupy or buy abandoned buildings, grow a garden, don’t succumb to the crap that is foisted on them like drugs, cars with payments, etc. Take back their space. It’s hard to do, but look at groups like the Amish. They are buying farms and making a life. Maybe their isolation from the main culture is what is allowing them to thrive.

  19. Sissyfuss on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 10:47 am 

    Derhund, the corporatocracy needs customers and cares not about the environmental devastation their praxis causes. Their addiction to profit cannot be cured. The iceberg is dead ahead and the present stooge in the White House not only orders full speed ahead, he has a firm grasp of the wheel and disallows anyone from enacting a change of course. Man the life boats.

  20. fmr-paultard on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 11:01 am 

    sis dear there are community benefitting biz but the world won’t let them survive. investors aren’t encouraged to think about benefiting the community but themselves.

    judges are promoted because they follow the law, not adhering to justice.

    you can see why biz are about making profits

    wars are about making men rich, not so much for women.

    so on…

    it’s very difficult to support your neighbors. this is in contrast to SENTPs vision of wholesomeness where bitcoin and community biz cuts out the middlemen. it’s a fantasy

  21. Sissyfuss on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 11:08 am 

    And you Parttard, are an absolute expert in fantasy. Party on.

  22. fmr-paultard on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 11:40 am 

    sis dear you can say President Trump is in control of the simpletard. Why aren’t the simpletard pony up wealth and energy to push their policies? They can’t. It’s all hot air…go to the booth and pull a lever.

    before leaving tehir jobs they will check in the local industrial ag. center and shop for dinner.

    i’m a tard i know that but judges cover their rear end because it’s safer to read the law, that’s in the books and that’s what they’re trained for.

    so who is contribute to environmental degradation? the simpletards and everyone else. so you’re right, they’re going full throttle ahead.

  23. fmr-paultard on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 11:45 am 

    this is a russian writer probably and he’s honest. this is the societal conditions of one of the two countries (china being other) that SENTPs are saying should set examples for the US. wodner why snowden doesn’t like it neitehr was Cambridge Five.

    Yet they’re nonstop recruting supertards.

  24. Boat on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 5:24 pm 

    Hello,

    I didn’t get your point regarding automation being win-win. Can you explain?

    Anything that can be done cheaper with bots will replace humans. Bots don’t require near as much infrastructure or energy to keep them productive, compared to humans.

    Humans without work are ok for a bot. They don’t care.

    Some people might question a world where bots are more valuable than a human. The answer might happen when bots take over the battlefield. Who knows, dream your own scenario.

  25. makati1 on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 7:35 pm 

    “A troubling new report released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that almost 40 percent of American adults and nearly 20 percent of adolescents are obese — the highest rates ever recorded for the U.S….

    Under Obamacare, a 30-year-old male, with a BMI of 18, who works out 5-6 days a week, eats as healthy as possible, and has absolutely no health problems whatsoever, ends up paying the same amount in premiums as a 30-year-old male who is 600lbs, eats two pizzas and drinks two 2-liter sodas daily, and has been previously told by his doctor that he needs to lose weight, or be at risk for heart disease and diabetes. …

    The consequences of the obesity epidemic are devastating: High blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease and stroke are not only killing millions of Americans annually — the obesity epidemic is also a humongous burden on the American health care system, making up $190 billion a year in weight-related medical bills. Luckily, Obamacare socialized the medical cost of these bad habits…so enjoy those McDonalds fries and we’ll all share the cost of your blood pressure and cholesterol medications…it’s just more ‘fair’ that way.”

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2017/10/16/how-obamacare-fuels-the-obesity-epidemic/#more-161472

    More of the Great Leveling…pass the fries! lol

  26. makati1 on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 7:45 pm 

    This is why the US needs to be put down like the mad dog it is:

    “Across Southeast Asia alone is an interlocked, deeply rooted and heavily financed network of American-backed agitators and propagandists, operating behind the cloaks of journalism and rights advocacy, working to upend local, independent political institutions and replace them with a system created by and serving exclusively the interests in Washington that created them.”

    “The Manila Times in a recent article titled, “CIA conduit funding anti-Duterte media outfits,” would shed light on US government money being channelled into the Philippines for the explicit purpose of manipulating public perception, particularly regarding politics. The article cites the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), and its grantees, the Philippine Center for Investigative Journalism (PCIJ), the Center for Media Freedom and Responsibility (CMFR), and the Vera Files.”

    “Thailand faces a similar landscape of compromised opposition organisations posing as independent, yet entirely funded by the US government and US-based corporate foundations. These include Prachatai, Thai Netizens, the New Democracy Movement, the Isaan Record, Thai Lawyers for Human Rights and even the Foreign Correspondents’ Club of Thailand (FCCT).”

    “In Cambodia, US government funding goes one step further, funding the entire opposition, hosting them in Washington D.C. and creating an entire media network to skew public perception in favour of this foreign enterprise and the interests that propel it.
    Recently arrested opposition leader, Kem Sokha, got his start at the US State Department and Open Society-funded organisation, the Cambodian Center for Human Rights (CCHR). He would later enter politics, but would continue collaborating directly with the US government, travelling to the United States annually to conspire openly with US representatives to overthrow the Cambodian government.”

    “Myanmar’s Aung San Suu Kyi and her National League for Democracy (NLD) political party’s ascension into power is an example of where exactly US ambitions will lead if unchecked. With the current government in Myanmar quite clearly disinterested in either democracy or human rights, considering the burgeoning Rohingya crisis, it is proof positive that US-funded interference merely operates behind the façade of such principles, and in no way actually seeks to uphold them.”

    https://journal-neo.org/2017/10/16/us-meddling-across-southeast-asia/

    Today would be just fine for the mad dog to be put down. I’ll buy the bullet.

  27. Anonymous on Mon, 16th Oct 2017 8:35 pm 

    Didn’t read the whole story since I am drinking in a bar, watching MNF (feel free to criticize this).

    I did think the point of superfluity was interesting. Will look at it later. I think we are losing something valuable in terms of the yeaman culture. But I don’t fully understand it and am hesitant to discuss without having better take on it. And it can even become a political and racially charged topic. There are elements of both the established Left and Right that don’t care for Jacksonian democracy or the frontier. But it (and the promise of land) was a big part of the American psyche. Not sure I want to live in a world dominated by Karl Rove of Hillary Clinton either. Limp dicks, both.

  28. pointer on Tue, 17th Oct 2017 8:53 am 

    “…a man of talents, education and sensitivity who is unable to find a place for himself in the contemporary world.”

    Not sure if they are talking about Davy, Cloggie, Boat or Makati. 🙂

    Seriously, it comes down to an imbalance of producers (aka workers) and consumers. Automation makes producers increasingly superfluous. This, however, is not the end of the story. Producers who are not working don’t have income for consuming, so who is the automation producing for? It seems like this condition necessarily leads into a downward spiral of less and less production simply because the market cannot afford even cheap goods produced by automation.

  29. Davy on Tue, 17th Oct 2017 9:20 am 

    Pointer, FYI, I enjoy myself here. I am doing fine here on the farm. There is nothing exceptional about my life and that makes me happy. I am just trying to localize and simplify. Thanks for the jab.

  30. Cloggie on Tue, 17th Oct 2017 9:32 am 

    “Not sure I want to live in a world dominated by Karl Rove of Hillary Clinton either. Limp dicks, both.”

    And white at that. Anonymouse wants to live in a country, dominated by Louis Farakhan. You’ve got my blessing… um… “bro”.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/white-supremacists-endorse-nation-of-islam-leader-louis-farrakhans-black-separatism/

    https://altright.com/2017/10/14/political-violence-is-inevitable-in-america/

    Fascinating that Rawstory calls Spencer a “supremacist” but Farakhan a seperatist. They are both separatists.

  31. Davy on Tue, 17th Oct 2017 9:45 am 

    Wrong anonymous clog, that comment referenced was Nony not the dumbass anonymouse1

  32. Theedrich on Tue, 17th Oct 2017 4:22 pm 

    The U.S. is a corrupt culture of superfluities.  Government and populace are obsessed only with self-gratification, power and attention-seeking.  The masses fancy it as “freedom” to ingest brain-numbing poisons from alcohol to crack cocaine laced with fentanyl, regardless of consequences.  The exploding drug epidemic is only now being officially recognized after a “60 Minutes” TV exposé of the political corruption behind it.  Whether anything serious will be done about this new Black Death remains an open question.  All kinds of specious lawyerly “explanations” about reducing pain, etc., are given to continue the scams.  Yes: “reduce pain” even while brain- and life-endangering “sports,” like the gladiatorial shows in ancient Roman arenas, bring in loads of money.  The vast majority of the politicians are liars who seek to terminate four billion years of biological evolution on this planet.  Stockholm-syndromed Europe wants the same.  And the dung-beetle herds persevere in supporting these phylogeneticidal “leaders.”

    The tertiary and even secondary educational systems of this country concentrate on inculcating hatred of the White man, the only form of human that ever raised a civilization from barbarism.  Yankeeland’s intelligentsia suicidally celebrates the return to that barbarism and its freakishness in every way, especially through rejection of serious and open thought, a rejection known as “political correctness,” lest some mud or mud-lover be offended.

    While American propagandists give lip service to the idea that Gringoland may have a few faults (like not importing all Spics) — faults committed, of course, by deplorable White men such as Robert E. Lee and Christopher Columbus, but never by Jews —, the regime arrogates to itself the right to mass-murder other populations it deems insufficiently obedient to itself.

    There is only one solution to this planeticide.  Even the draconian regime of North Korea recognizes this.  So the only quesion left is whether the earth or America will end first.

  33. peakyeast on Tue, 17th Oct 2017 4:43 pm 

    I have been to the USA for the past month – and boy is that a spectacle of waste and stupidity. I thought Europe was bad, but USA takes the prize. The amount of SUVs and huge cars to transport one single person to the mcjob or even school is just obscene. The amount of poor people begging on the streets is disgusting.

    Even the frigging toilets waste insane amounts of water. – And I can conclude that American men has very tiny penisses or are happy having them dip in the toilet water otherwise that toilet system would have been changed long ago. 😉

    It seems the average american is totally consumed by consumerism and extreme waste and loaded up with debt.

  34. Davy on Tue, 17th Oct 2017 4:53 pm 

    If you look for the bad you will find it. I tend to look for some good along with the bad but obviously you wanted to find the bad. You might mention where you were at also. The US does take the prize but there is more to it because there are many people like me living differently.

  35. makati1 on Tue, 17th Oct 2017 6:32 pm 

    Peaky, as I have been saying, the frog in the pot of water cannot feel the change but an outsider can. I see the same decline on every visit. The US was built on a system that can no longer continue for a lot of reasons, so it will not. Only the warming frogs can not see it.

  36. Babtized on Wed, 18th Oct 2017 1:29 pm 

    A frog staying in slowly hotter water till it dies, is not true, just an old fake story.

  37. Apneaman on Wed, 18th Oct 2017 3:40 pm 

    Disposable douche, many others besides the white man has gone from primitive barbarism to high culture and all of them long before the white man. Whitey just the latest and obviously is going down as short lived. Again you are contradicting yourself. The white man cannot be both superior and failing/committing suicide at the same time.

    Adults, check out Ian Morris’s “Why the West Rules—For Now: The Patterns of History, and What They Reveal About the Future”, to learn how it came about.

    “In the middle of the eighteenth century, British entrepreneurs unleashed the astounding energies of steam and coal and the world changed forever. Factories, railways and gunboats then propelled the West’s rise to power, and computers and nuclear weapons in the twentieth century secured its global supremacy. Today, however, many worry that the emergence of China and India spell the end of the West as a superpower.

    How long will the power of the West last? In order to find out we need to know: why has the West been so dominant for the past two hundred years?

    With flair and authority, historian and achaeologist Ian Morris draws uniquely on 15,000 years of history to offer fresh insights on what the future will bring. Deeply researched and brilliantly argued, Why The West Rules – For Now is a gripping and truly original history of the world.”

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-West-Rules-Patterns-History/dp/1846682088

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnqS7G3LmMo

  38. Cloggie on Wed, 18th Oct 2017 10:01 pm 

    “Disposable douche, many others besides the white man has gone from primitive barbarism to high culture and all of them long before the white man. Whitey just the latest and obviously is going down as short lived. Again you are contradicting yourself. The white man cannot be both superior and failing/committing suicide at the same time.”

    Our local mini George Soros gloats about the immanent demise of Europeans world-wide, or so he thinks, as his tribe has been constantly attacking us since the beginning of time. To be fair, his tribe received some major bruises to return the favor.

    But it is true, the absolute planetary dominance of white man is over, thanks to two terrible world wars, initiated by the British and US Jews respectively. In the future we will have to share power with the Chinese. The West needs to be destroyed, so we get rid of the overlordship of apneaman’s tribe. Stalin managed to gradually get rid of them between 1938-1953. The West will be finished by ca. 2025.

    Then we will start all over again with a new “reactionary” post-human rights value system. It is going to be a chaotic process.

  39. Cloggie on Wed, 18th Oct 2017 10:50 pm 

    Floriday gov declares “state of emergency” over upcoming Richard Spencer speech.lol

    https://youtu.be/jFRTcTN__h4

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