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Kunstler: Gimme Shelter
“Have you all lost your mind?” Vladimir Putin replied to one of Megyn Kelly’s thrusts about alleged Russian perfidy toward the US in the gala interview that debuted her new Sunday Night star-chamber on CNN. Old Vlad put his finger on something there. His view of the late goings-on in America is like that of the proverbial detached Martian observer of strange Earthly doings, rattling his antennae and clicking his mouth-parts in mirth.
To which retort, by the way, one would have to answer, ”Yes, absolutely.” The toils of slow economic collapse, accompanied by the ceaseless effort by various arms of the Deep State to spin “the narrative” around the voting public’s collective head, has driven the polity insane. And this, of course, is on view in the bedlam that US politics has become, Trump and all. I’m waiting for The New York Times to run the three-column headline that says Russia Racist, Misogynist, and Islamophobic to finally bring together the programmed paranoia of NeoCon / DemProg alliance with the esprit de corp of the new collegiate Red Guard.
Mr. Putin does not have to lift a finger to detonate the groaning garbage barge of US domestic affairs. It’s already ignited and is faring toward a very peculiar species of civil war. You can be sure that the NeoCon / DemProg axis is determined to get rid of Trump at all costs. Impeachment requires some sort of high crime or misdeamenor. So far, going on a year, they haven’t come up with any evidence that the Golden Golem of Greatness acted as a Russian agent in some fashion, and that itself has got to be a little suspicious, considering the thousands of clerks in the spinning mills of those legendary seventeen Intel outfits the government runs. How could they fail to come up with a video of the Donald and Vladimir swatting each other playfully with birch switches in a Moscow banya? Five TV sitcom writers could surely come up with an angle — as long as it was a plausible entertainment.
In the meantime, Trump prevails, the mad bull elephant of the Republican herd, majestically swinging his trunk against everything breakable in the political china shop while trumpeting “Covfefe! Covfefe!” Last week it was the Paris Climate Accords. The op-ed writers in the usual places bounced off the walls of their virtual rubber room in response. Paul Krugman had to be dragged down to hydrotherapy at the NYT after he set his hair on fire. And Rachel Maddow practically popped a carotid artery in her muscular neck from all that shrieking.
I’m a bit more sanguine about the US withdrawal. To me, the Paris Accords were just another feel-good PR stunt enabling politicians to pretend that they could control forces that are already way out-of-hand, an international vanity project of ass-covering. The coming economic collapse will depress global industrial activity whether anybody likes it or not, and despite anyone’s pretense of good intentions — and then we will have a range of much more practical problems of everyday life to contend with.
Of course, Trump cannot possibly see it that way, given his wish to bring back the America of humming factories and happy workers seeing the USA in their Chevrolets and all that. That fantasy will eventually fade as the inability to get anything done in Washington becomes manifest and obvious. When the “basket of deplorables” sees their hopes dribble away, they will start in with serious mischief of their own, without Trump having to prompt them. Then it will be a quixotic battle between them and the BLM / SJW proxies that the higher-up chickenshits of DemProgdom have so carefully groomed as their vanguard. There will be blood.
Yes, Mr. P, America has lost its mind. The whole thing has turned into some kind of nonstop Kardashian tranny monster truck shit-show of manufactured melodrama and lost causes, inducing a kind of global nausea that may ultimately prove more fatal than the rising surface temperature and melting icecaps. Russia, to its credit, and whatever else you think about it, has some regard for its own survival. Our country prefers the excitement of self-destruction.
18 Comments on "Kunstler: Gimme Shelter"
Cloggie on Mon, 5th Jun 2017 8:41 am
It’s already ignited and is faring toward a very peculiar species of civil war… That fantasy will eventually fade as the inability to get anything done in Washington becomes manifest and obvious. When the “basket of deplorables” sees their hopes dribble away, they will start in with serious mischief of their own, without Trump having to prompt them.
That scenario is very likely.
Btw did Kunstler contemplate the possibility that Trump himself could morph in a warlord if he is impeached on some pretext?
But I don’t think they will really impeach Trump, they will just continue to demonize him. In the wings is waiting Mark Zuckerberg as the next Dems & Deep State candidate for 2020. He is 33, where a president is not allowed to be younger than 35. So they can’t even afford a premature impeachment.
It remains to be seen if Trump himself has enough “stamina” to run once again in 2020. And the establishment won’t allow a 2nd “hijack” of the country to happen.
In 2016 HC already had 2.5 million votes more than DT. Zuckerberg has flirted with the idea of universal healthcare and basic income, obviously to be paid for by whitey. The turnout will be spectacular under black voters this time.
I expect The Great White Escape (attempt).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdSJETBib4U
I’m a bit more sanguine about the US withdrawal. To me, the Paris Accords were just another feel-good PR stunt enabling politicians to pretend that they could control forces that are already way out-of-hand
Disagree with that. It does send a clear signal to industry about the desired path of development. It can’t be stressed enough that renewable energy can price compete with fossil and that overpopulated countries like China and India can’t afford a fossil fuel based growth strategy for environmental reasons.
joe on Mon, 5th Jun 2017 9:11 am
Saudi just turned on its ally Qatar, together with the CIA and Turkey they founded isis, I sense a bit of buyers remorse there. One wonders when the world will wake up to what peak oil actually means or are we to have yet another lost decade of monetised no growth stasis? Kunstler is heading in the right direction but his initial view that sombody will kill Trump then impeach him when nobody actually wanted Trump dead but now he’s begining to realise the truth, that Trump is not the problem, the problem is what 40 years of globalism has brought to the US and the West, namely bad immigration, terrorism, lost culture, and accelerated GW. Not to mention several severe recessions and a transfer of wealth from bottom to top not seen since Roman times, this is fitting THE model for social failure and from Afghanistan to Turkey we see the begining of what will come first to Europe and then finally America as the centre of the global empire. It will be too late then cause GW will be in full swing, with failing harvests and massive flooding both coastal and storm related humanity simply will not be able to manage on the scale it currently maintains. If at all.
Cloud9 on Mon, 5th Jun 2017 9:48 am
The geographic lines of battle are fairly easy to spot if you look at the last election on the county level. City centers are islands of blue in a sea of red.
Ghung on Mon, 5th Jun 2017 10:46 am
Joe said; “….he’s begining to realise the truth, that Trump is not the problem, the problem is what 40 years of globalism has brought to the US and the West, namely bad immigration, terrorism, lost culture, and accelerated GW.”
Kunstler has always intimated that Trump is a symptom-cum-problem of a deeper insanity, especially in the US; a deep sense of entitlement and privilege, and the expectation that first-worlders can keep living the way they have for the last 100 years or so. Those who aren’t living that dream are deeply resentful, and the idea that we’ll be forced to dramatically change our behavior drives the rest of the population bat-shit crazy.
Somehow, people have become utterly convinced that they deserve to consume the planets resources ad-infinitum while suffering no negative consequences what-so-ever. When reality sets in they blame each other, or Muslims, or Obama, or the poor, or……..
Limits to growth asserts itself.
GregT on Mon, 5th Jun 2017 1:03 pm
” When reality sets in they blame each other, or Muslims, or Obama, or the poor, or……..”
Or those 38 million dumbass anti-American Canadians perhaps? Yah, it must be their fault. No point in looking in the mirror and facing reality, that never solves anything……
Cloud9 on Mon, 5th Jun 2017 5:15 pm
Ghung I guess we all could collectively save the planet if we all walked out in the first open space we encountered and offed ourselves. To add a bit of hyperbole to Stalin’s quote, the death of one man is a tragedy, the death of 7.5 billion plus is merely a statistic. And then after the nuclear melt downs had faded, at some point, the sun would go supernova and that would be it. You Greens can spend all the time you want hyperventilating about things we absolutely cannot control. That is your choice. Neither China nor India or any other place is going to shut down its industry and push its kids away from the table to save some seals. What we are witnessing is the tragedy of the commons. There will be a reset. There will be a catastrophic die off and the process will begin again. I am focusing on my own kids. If I can push them through the bottle neck, I will have succeeded. If a few strangers get pushed through in the process, it is all well and good.
makati1 on Mon, 5th Jun 2017 7:59 pm
Humanity is going, if it is not already, insane. Some of us are still rational but the numbers shrink daily. After thousands of years, we have evolved into nuclear man, capable of destroying all life on the planet in one day. Great achievement! Too bad we are probably not smart enough to prevent it. We shall see.
DerHundistlos on Tue, 6th Jun 2017 12:42 pm
Cloud9
Election maps are telling you big lies about small things
The typical red/blue election map is in some ways deceiving. To look at a county-level 2016 map, it would appear Republicans dominated the race. In reality, Democrats received a larger share of the popular vote by almost 3 million votes.
http://metrocosm.com/election-2016-map-3d/
pointer on Tue, 6th Jun 2017 4:35 pm
America has not lost its mind. It was never in full possession, but just pretended that it was.
makati1 on Tue, 6th Jun 2017 6:54 pm
pointer, you may be right. After all, it has spent most of the years since it’s founding in a war that it has started somewhere in the world. It is a country soaked in blood and death. Now, blow-back is bringing it home. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving country.
Davy on Tue, 6th Jun 2017 7:30 pm
Well, I think the rest of the world is pretty stupid to have been run by the stupid Americans for so long. Talk about dumbasses.
GregT on Thu, 8th Jun 2017 1:26 am
“Well, I think the rest of the world is pretty stupid to have been run by the stupid Americans for so long. Talk about dumbasses.”
Only those countries that were incapable of fighting back. Either militarily, or economically.
makati1 on Thu, 8th Jun 2017 2:06 am
GregT, you point out the obvious, but it will still be denied by the Missouri Mule. The U$ has not picked a fight with a country that was anywhere close to being it’s equal in centuries, until now. It came into WW1 after the Germans were losing. Ditto for WW2. Then it lost the next few outright with little Vietnam and Korea. It has not won one in 100 years. And never will. Money cannot buy intelligence and the U$ is lacking.
Cloggie on Thu, 8th Jun 2017 2:09 am
Well, I think the rest of the world is pretty stupid to have been run by the stupid Americans for so long.
Indeed, that would not make sense. And especially your kosher leadership can be attributed a satanic intelligence, specialized on playing out other geopolitical opponents against each other. If you want to understand the geopolitics over the past 1000 years, you should study this all-telling graph, made by an American scholar at a Dutch university:
https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2015/09/Economic-history.png&w=1484
(apparently he never heard of the Roman Empire, but what the heck).
American power in the 20th century was based on a huge tax farm of European immigrants, a Zionist leadership that believes that they are the “Chosen People”, destined to inherit the earth [snicker], these Protestant Yanks willing to do the dirty work for them and of course a giant oil based economy.
In 1941 the US had 29% of global GDP (by 1950 even 40%), their kosher palls in the USSR 13% and the Europeans, who had ruled the planet so far for 450 years, were divided to the core about the question whether Germany was allowed to exist at all, where Britain had dominated the 19th century, thanks again to energy, in casu coal, but was overtaken by the US around 1870, see the same graph.
Also interesting is that [violins please] The White Race (including Russia) had 80% GDP in 1950, but that has shrunk to 50% now. The graph doesn’t go further than 2008, but in 2017 in terms of PPP, China has already overtaken the US and whitey has now less than 50%.
What can we learn from that?
– America should give up its self-destructive NWO ideas, because impossible anyway, and give the kosher leadership that promotes these ideas the boot.
– Whitey should completely give up its Christian “Albert Schweitzer” attitude and begin to take non-whites seriously as competitors.
– Geopolitics is the art of maneuvering your own club in a winning coalition. That winning coalition is Paris-Berlin-Moscow + US Heartland. There is not going to be a 2nd American Century, forget about that. America needs to step down a few rungs from the geopolitical ladder and learn to see Europe and Russia as real allies, rather than vassals. Europe AND Russia are ready for that. Europe needs to increase its defense budget to real 2% and the US should decrease its budget. Today we have US-50, EU-25 and Russia/China-25. That should become US-37 and EU-37.
makati1 on Thu, 8th Jun 2017 2:16 am
Interesting Stat:
“USA Plunges To 114th ‘Most-Peaceful’ Nation On Earth” (Out of 161 countries.)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-07/usa-plunges-114th-most-peaceful-nation-earth
Iceland is number 1.
Canada s number 8.
LMAO
makati1 on Thu, 8th Jun 2017 4:02 am
And again:
“Drug Overdoses Now The Leading Killer Of American Adults Under 50”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-07/drug-overdoses-now-leading-killer-american-adults-under-50
“The opioid crisis that is ravaging urban and suburban communities across the US claimed an unprecedented 59,000 lives last year…”
Sounds like America needs a “Drug War”. WAIT! It has one … doesn’t it? LMAO
Davy on Thu, 8th Jun 2017 5:25 am
“Well, I think the rest of the world is pretty stupid to have been run by the stupid Americans for so long. Talk about dumbasses.”
Wow, that comment did wonders sucking out the stupid with their inbred ideas of past centuries. People with excessive egos and hurt feelings. It must suck being wrong so much. LOL.
Davy on Thu, 8th Jun 2017 5:29 am
“The Philippines can’t fight its meth battle until it wins the war on corruption”
http://tinyurl.com/y8earndx
“Philippines Meth Trade Out of the Shadows Again”
https://www.voanews.com/a/philippines-meth-trade/3739546.html
“MANILA, PHILIPPINES — Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte’s war on drugs had until three weeks ago driven the trade in crystal methamphetamine underground, according to residents and drug users in some of the slum areas of the nation’s capital city. As thousands of users and dealers were shot dead by police and vigilantes in the first seven months after Duterte came to power last June, open dealing in the drug, known here by its street name shabu, largely stopped. Instead, deals were done on the quiet between people who knew each other, maybe with a text message first. But since Duterte ordered the Philippine National Police (PNP) to stand down from the drugs war last month, after declaring the force “rotten to the core,” the drugs trade has come back out of the shadows, more than half a dozen drug users and dealers in some of Manila’s toughest areas said in interviews. Many spoke on condition that only their first names be used in this story.”