Lessons from the Syrian Revolution

37 Comments on "Lessons from the Syrian Revolution"

rockman on Sat, 24th Sep 2016 7:03 pm 



One lesson would be that when major powers, like Russia and the US, interject themselves into any country’s CIVIL war they are signing on to the killing of CIVILIANS. Not exactly how sophisticated superpowers would like to be tagged.

And yes: the Syrian army troopers wear uniforms. And so did the Union army during our CIVIL war…as we Americans refer to it. If a country chooses to support either side in a CIVIL war they are supporting a war against CIVILIANS.

Choose wisely, grasshopper, history is watching.

penury on Sat, 24th Sep 2016 10:25 pm 



The “revolution” was not. The war in Syria is the effort to force ASSad to allow a pipeline thru his country. Paid for and supported by the U.S.A

makati1 on Sat, 24th Sep 2016 10:33 pm 



Right on, Penury. All the other excuses are pure bullshit. It is a corporate war, paid for by the taxpayers and killing innocents for profit.

Plantagenet on Sat, 24th Sep 2016 10:40 pm 



Wait till it comes out that Obama’s scheme to topple the Assad government led him to order the CIA to arm ISIS, only to be surprised when ISIS didn’t topple Assad but instead invaded Iraq.

makati1 on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 12:08 am 



Plant, I doubt it will ever ‘come out’. There is more under the US MSM rug than that bit of reality. The government lies have been growing since 9/11 like Pinocchio’s nose. World domination means you never have to say you’re sorry. lol

Anonymous on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 12:15 am 



Plantatard, stfu. ‘Obama’ does not, and did not ‘order the CIA’ to do anything of the sort. Not in Syria, not anywhere else for that matter. The CIA does not answer to ‘Obama’, or even to so-called ‘presidents’ generally. On paper maybe, but that is just a formality. The CIA rubbed out the only uS president to even hint at curbing their power back when. Every single uS ‘prez’ since then has studiously avoided antagonizing the CIA and its deep state backers.

Since your being your usual retard self, got any evidence to back that howler, obama orders CIA to take down Assad? Love to see it, if it exists (spoiler alert: it doesn’t).

rockman at least, might know his oily rocks and geology very well, but little about the world outside ‘texas’. Sorry rock, no ‘civil war’ in Syria. Don’t try to draw analogies to your own so-called ‘civil war’, which btw, wasn’t a civil war either.

You otoh, plantatard don’t know sweet bugger all about anything. Keep doubling down on stupid though….

Cloggie on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 12:40 am 



it has long come out that the satanic western elites planned this slaughter:

https://youtu.be/Kz-s2AAh06I

Most dangerous are these politicians spilling the beans who are too old to have to worry about their careers. Just like former Italian president Cossiga who reveiled that all western intelligence agencies knew that 9/11 was a Mossad-CIA coproduction.

And no, it is not a civil war, but a careful planned regime change using solely foreign rent-a-terrorist jihadists. The recrutement was done by the likes of Qatar, KSA, Turkey. The main target the West tried to hit was Russia and push it out of the ME completely.

Just google up the photos of McCain discussing with IS chieftain al-Baghdadi to know the truth.

But IS never had the intention to hand over Syria to the wstern infidels, instead they intended to take over the place for themselves and developed a taste for Iraq as well.

After the Saddam debacle, where effectively Iraq was handed over to the sphere of influence of arch enemy iran, the western Clouseau’s scored yet another own goal in Syria. Meanwhile China is growing from strength to strength.

No, the West won’t be the world:

https://youtu.be/2_wfMrz9_mY

Instead the globalist West will collapse into its own foot print with free fall speed due to its insane mass immigration policies and revolting indigenious populations. Embrace yourself for another European 1930s: pretty right-wing.

makati1 on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 1:13 am 



Cloggie, as you said, chaos is coming to the West and it is now obvious in the US. How many US cities have riots going on at the moment? 6? 8? 10? It seems that every time I look at the news there is another one. The serfs of every color are waking up to the lies spewing out of Washington. More city burning in the future. Martial law eventually, I think. as for Europe, they are only a few steps ahead of America in disintegration.

theedrich on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 2:51 am 



The destruction of Syria was planned long ago.  Years before the U.S. destruction of that nation started, I learned from a Special Forces man who was in between assignments all over the Levant, that northern Lebanon was already awash in money and materiel, readying for implementation in Syria.  Then, after the Libyan “mission accomplished” murders by the U.S., and a few hours before our ambassador in Libya was killed in Benghazi, that same ambassador had seen to the departure of a shipload of American arms from that city’s port to the anti-Bashar-al-Assad “freedom fighters” Syria.  The whole dance of death had been choreographed even back before 9/11, and the New World Order stringpullers were just waiting for the opportunity to not let a “crisis go to waste” (as Rahm Emanuel put it).  That is the true reason why Hotflash refuses to reveal the facts about Benghazi.

In fact, back on 1990 July 25, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, had told then ruling Saddam Hussein in effect that America did not care a whit about whether he took over Kuwait.  Saddam’s subsequent invasion (undertaken on the belief that America had in advance tacitly approved his action) was the “crisis” which the U.S. psyops crowd then used to justify our invasion of Iraq to “save” Kuwait and invade the Middle East in order to dominate the world through control of the oil spigots there.

The Negro currently occupying the Oval Office intends to keep this whole slaughterfest hidden, and needs the slut from hell to be elected in his place in order to suppress any facts about America’s demonic nihilism as long as possible.

Truth Has A Liberal Bias on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 3:27 am 



Section 1031 of the National Defence Act defines a “covered person”—one subject to detention—as “a person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda”. Given Pentagon support and CIA support for al-Qaeda elements in Syria it’s not hard to see why they didn’t support the bill.

Cloggie on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 4:36 am 



It is a generally known and undisputed fact that al-Qaeda was a branchild of the CIA in order to get the USSR out of Afghanistan using the good services of bin Laden and accomplished by Feb 1989, shortly before the fall of the wall in Berlin.

https://youtu.be/p3cSvp9pEw4

Afghanistan, the “graveyard of empires”.

10 years later al-Qaeda was used as the scapegoat for 9/11.

Within hours Bin Laden is accused. Jerome Hauer pointed the finger at Bin Laden on mainstream TV, saying: “umm, the, uh, fingerprints of somebody like Bin Laden”.

No investigation necessary, blaming immediately without proof.

A few hours later another Zionist Paul Bremmer repeats that baseless accusation:

https://youtu.be/j2pW6WZhZrQ

Interviewer: you are a terrorist expert. Bremer: a counter-terrorist expert. The interviewer got it right in the first minute.lol

Here the ridiculous video where a “Mark Walsh” explains in detail what has happened, shortly after the collapse of WTC1/2:

https://youtu.be/Z45hI6YuC-I

It was all scripted: put the blame on bin Laden where the Mossad was the real culpritt.

Once Trump would be come president, he should order an independent investigation into 9/11 as the “best way forward” in getting a large chunk of the Zionist establishment behind bars and kick the entire US sanhedrin a few rungs down the ladder Putin-style.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

And despite the fact that supposedly al-Qaeda did 9/11, the US has absolutely no problems in using that organisation for yet another regime change in the Middle East.

yoshua on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 7:28 am 



The Nazi empire lost the war and the moral right to live. Everybody has human rights except Europeans.

The Middle East is the oil center of the world, without that oil the world would die. MENA has today a population of 400 million, but can only produce water and food for 200 million people. So 200 million Muslims must be moved to Europe to end the wars and to stabilize the region to guarantee the continued flow of oil.

The U.S will now take down Turkey to really open the refugee floodgates to Europe. Europe will of course collapse and descend into chaos and then to Fascism and atrocities. This will give the world the moral obligation to kill us all.

Cloggie on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 7:35 am 



Boat tries to peddle in a different thread (“Venezuela”) that “There is a 60 plus nation coalation trying to kill them (IS).”

Meanwhile Kerry has demanded that Russia and Syria should ground all their aircraft:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-calls-on-russia-and-syria-to-ground-all-aircraft-in-northwest-syria/2016/09/21/ea602cbc-8013-11e6-8d0c-fb6c00c90481_story.html

Which means that the US, Britain, France, KSA and others could continue to operate over Syria.

You can’t make this stuff up.

No, the US doesn’t want IS to take over Syria anymore, but they won’t fight IS either. They still want Assad to go but if that won’t work, splitting up Syria is a second best option.

And that is probably what is going to happen, since Russia won’t object to that either in the long run. They will still have their base as the new protector of a more or less secular Syrian romp state, a container for the higher elements of what once was Syria: higher educated Syrian, Christians.

Eastern Syria will be owned by the archaic IQ80 Allah muppets and as such connect Turkey and KSA.

Cloggie on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 7:47 am 



“Everybody has human rights except Europeans.”

Listen my kosher friend yoshua. The only ones for whom time is running out is for your kind. Israel will be drowned in a see of Sunni fundamentalism. Fortunately there is a Final Solution for you in the cards: liquidate Israel and move these natural born commie trouble makers to Greater Baltimore, aka as Afrosphere, while handing over your nukes to Brussels:

http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4486/8rrlwfhb_jpg

Next we are going to have an audit of the performance of your kind in the 20th century: communism, gulags, WW1 & US entry, WW2 instigators, Nuremberg & holo-tale, JFK murder, destruction of America through mass-immigration, political correctness, 9/11 and a few goodies more.

Your days are numbered as a political force to be reckoned with.

As your co-tribalist Slexkine aptly observed, namely that the 20th century was your century:

https://www.amazon.com/Jewish-Century-Yuri-Slezkine/dp/0691127603/ref=sr_1_1

…we also have to observe that the 20th century is over. Self-Chosenness, Exceptionalism, One World, Communism, USSR, US empire, 6 sides of the same coin, are going to be shelved. Multi-polar world is next. Mazzeltov, mind the step on your way out.

Cloggie on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 8:14 am 



Boat tries to peddle in a different thread (“Venezuela”) that “There is a 60 plus nation coalation trying to kill them (IS).”

http://russia-insider.com/en/open-season-syrian-soldiers-denmark-australia-and-britain-all-say-took-part-deadly-deir-ez-zor-raid

Saturday US blasted Syrian army positions in a sustained, 40-minute attack that destroyed at least six pieces of armor (how many T-72s Washington thinks ISIS has??) and killed over 90 soldiers defending the encircled city of Deir ez-Zor vs ISIS.

What the West really did was attempting to drive Assad out from Eastern Syria. And next the natural born western liars told the world it was a “mistake”.

joe on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 8:15 am 



Is it a revolution?
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/revolution
I would say its closer to this.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/civil-war?s=t

So how did it get to this? Well thats easy. The CIA or mossad or whoever was able to make the sunni muslims paranoid enough about Assad that it became easy for criminal elements (think back to the overthrow of Mossadech ) to gain control long enough to arm themselves. Isis was inevitable. What I will never get is why Assad emptied his jails and let these maniacs loose. Then again many of these criminals carved out their own areas thus preventing the creation of a political core. I guess he didnt want his own camp Bucca.
Religious and ethnic distrust of the middle east has spread into the West again because of globalisation and emigration. I argue that 9-11 would probobly not have happened but for emigration and foolish attempts to build the idealist liberal dream of a humanity at peace and understanding. Thats not human nature and not human future.

Boat on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 8:18 am 



clog,

Here is information on Syria straight from the horses mouth.

http://www.defense.gov/News/Special-Reports/0814_Inherent-Resolve

As of Jan. 10, the US-led military coalition has carried out 6,341 airstrikes in Iraq and 3,219 in Syria, according to the Pentagon. Of those, the United States has carried out the majority, with 4,361 Iraq and 3,029 in Syria.
The rest of the military coalition has carried out 1,980 strikes in Iraq and 190 in Syria. The countries doing so in Iraq include the United States, Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Jordan, the Netherlands and Britain. In Syria, the nations that have carried out airstrikes include the United States, Australia, Bahrain, Canada, France, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates and Britain.
http://www.businessinsider.com/7-countries-have-entered-the-fight-against-isis-2016-1

joe on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 8:30 am 



Just watched that horrendous propaganda piece. Half of Syria is in the hands of either isis or the nusrah front. Its particularly insulting in its lies about women, and deceitful in its claims of anarchist roots. The councils he is talking about are set up along strict religious lines, they dont invite Allawites or Shias or Christians to be in them or lead them, its all bullsh**t.

Cloggie on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 8:32 am 



Here is information on Syria straight from the horses mouth.
http://www.defense.gov/News/Special-Reports/0814_Inherent-Resolve

LOL You can’t call the US government “the horses mouth”, as if it were an Oracle of Truth. You are so terribly naive that it is touching and you probably believe your own BS, namely that everything that comes from the US government’s mouth or its media, must be the truth.

If all that combined fire power would really be used against IS, the latter would long be pulverized and history. The US has ZERO interest in giving IS held territory back to Assad.

As of Jan. 10, the US-led military coalition has carried out 6,341 airstrikes in Iraq and 3,219 in Syria, according to the Pentagon. Of those, the United States has carried out the majority, with 4,361 Iraq and 3,029 in Syria.

Probably tried to “hit” Jihadi bases with wooden crates, filled with contraband. That was probably the reason the Syrian army fired on these Jihadi aid convoys from IS ally Turkey with mortars last week, to prevent Eastern Aleppo from being resupplied… with weapons.

Cloggie on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 8:44 am 



About these “aid convoys”:

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160813/1044235310/rebels-aleppo-foreign-aid.html

The rebels’ recent breakthrough in the Aleppo siege was done with cash and supplies being ferried in for weeks from its regional backers, including Saudi Arabia and Qatar, with the US turning a blind eye to the activities in order to pile pressure on Russia and Iran, according to the revelations of the Financial Times.

Even US MSM Business Insider admits:

http://www.businessinsider.com/graphic-the-most-accurate-breakdown-of-the-syrian-rebels-2013-9
Who are the approximately 100,000 rebels fighting to topple Syrian President Bashar al Assad?

Assad claims that “80 to 90% of those [the Syrian government is] fighting belong to al Qaeda.”

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry claims that 15% to 25% of the opposition is “bad guys” who belong to an extremist groups.

Neither is accurate.

UN says 30,000.

RT says over 40,000:

https://www.rt.com/usa/345269-40000-foreign-terrorists-syria/

Cloud9 on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 9:07 am 



As Herbert pointed out in Dune, the spice must flow. The players may inadvertently tip us into nuclear war in their final efforts to gain control of the last remaining dregs of the juice that powers civilization. For what it is worth, I think Syria and Venezuela are precursors of the fate that awaits all the exporting countries. Failed economic systems, failed states and war are symptoms of systemic collapse. The refugee problem we are currently experiencing is a mere smattering of what is coming as these failed petro states begin to depopulate.

dissident on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 9:13 am 



It’s cute how for the USA and its minions any attack on civilians or the “wrong” target is a mistake or collateral damage but the USA and its minions accuse Russia of a “war crime” in the alleged bombing of “humanitarian” convoy (there was no sign of aviation bombs, but there were jihadi mortars together with the convoy).

The USA using different definitions of war crime for every occasion. Assuming Russia did “bomb” the convoy, so what? There was no guarantee that this convoy would reach civilians and not be aid for the jihadis. The jihadis refused to abide by the negotiated ceasefire. That some truck drivers died, well cry me a river. Take a look at what the US does on a routine basis and then come back sobbing about “war crimes”.

BTW, there is plenty of evidence that this convoy attack was a false flag. But the point remains that it was legitimate target in a war zone. Equating some convoy with civilians is bizarre and grotesque.

yoshua on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 9:26 am 



Cloggie – I should perhaps made it clear that: We Europeans are the lowest scum on earth and that our time has now come.

dissident on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 9:43 am 



http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9904/13/nato.attack.03/

The same sanctimonious collection of self-appointed global police sure sing a different tune when they slaughter civilians. Yeah, some goods convoy is a war crime but bombing a civilian train and killing over 50 people (ignore the CNN lies in the piece above) is merely “unfortunate”.

NATO’s “moral superiority” exits only in its collective head. You are all truly legends in your own minds.

Cloggie on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 10:13 am 



I should perhaps made it clear that: We Europeans are the lowest scum on earth and that our time has now come.

If you describe yourself as scum, who am I to stop you.

For the rest of the gentile Europeans: the goose with the golden eggs.

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/list_of_inventions_by_country.shtml

Boat on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 10:13 am 



Clog,

Even if RT numbers are correct this is still small ball conflict in Syria and Iraq. Not a pretense to WWIII. Lol Europe’s immigration problem is easy to solve. Don’t allow it. Isn’t that was Brexit all about?

I am against immigration. Not because I don’t think they will assimilate and become productive citizens but climate change and it’s dangers are a more pressing concern. No immigration is just one step in an over populated world.
The idea immigrants don’t assimilate and become productive citizens is just racist bullshyt.

rockman on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 11:52 am 



Cloggie – “And no, it is not a civil war, but a careful planned regime change using solely foreign rent-a-terrorist jihadists” So was the War of Northern Aggression (LOL) in the 1860’s not a “civil war” because foreign countries aligned with both sides? Was the war led by the 13 colonies to separate from the British empire not a “civil war” because France aided the colonists and Germany provided paid mercenaries to fight for the British? Was the Vietnam “conflict” not a civil war between the north and south because almost 60,000 Americans died as we killed hundreds of thousands of armed civilians while the US, Russia and China spent $trillions supporting the civilian govts on both sides of the war?

Seems like more a matter of degrees and not absolute. With that in mind can anyone name a “pure” civil war?

yoshua on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 12:10 pm 



The war in Syria started due to over population and resource depletion when the oil production collapsed and the crops failed due to drought. The Sunni majority took to the streets and demanded democracy. The Alawite minority in power had two choices: accept a democratic vote and hand over the guns to the Sunni majority or hold on to the guns. Not surprisingly they choose to hold on to the guns.

Cloggie on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 12:19 pm 



@Rockman

– The 1860s, that was a real civil war.
– Yugoslavia was a real civil war
– The enormous slaughter between Catholics and Protestants in Europe between 1517-1648 was a real civil war.
– the war in Russia 1917-1922 was a civil war

Was the war led by the 13 colonies to separate from the British empire not a “civil war” because France aided the colonists and Germany provided paid mercenaries to fight for the British?

Hardly.

Americans love to portray the events around 1776 as an heroic uprising of the “Americans” (European colonists really) against the British “oppressor”, best represented by this ridiculous scene from The Patriot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-BQi0JjY2w

Watch the Brits patiently wait until it is their turn to be executed.lol

In reality, the War of Independence was first and foremost a struggle between the continental Europeans (French & Dutch) against Britain, that in their eyes got a little bit too powerful, so they wanted to deprive the British of a valuable huge colony.

Figures for perspective:

Population in millions in 1776:

France…………………23
Britain………………..11
Netherlands……………..2
Anti-British Colonialists…2
Pro-British Colonialists..0.5

The Europeans had giant empires, tax income, huge fleets, commercial and military where the colonialists were small in numbers, experience and means.

Killed in action:

French……………..13,894
Colonialists……4,435-6,824
British……………..1,240
Germans mercenaries…..1,200

Although all Americans had Dutch guns and some Americans did indeed die, it was not the majority. Europeans did most of the dying. Americans were merely walking in the way.lol

Why were the continental Europeans so keen on teaching the British a lesson:

1756:

http://www.reformation.org/e-1756-new-world.jpg

1763:

http://www.reformation.org/e-1763-new-world.jpg

These f* British had taken over Canada from the French and the latter didn’t like that too much, that’s why. Fortunately they had some locals who could be motivated to take over the tax farm.

For the details to confirm this non too-American-centric view on the American Revolution read:

https://www.amazon.com/First-Salute-Barbara-W-Tuchman/dp/0345336674/ref=sr_1_1

Without France, Holland (and Spain), America would have been much longer in a situation like Canada (independent from London as late as in the 1980’s and some claim it is still not really independent).

But rockman, no need to send us flowers.lol The fun of kicking the British out paid handsomely for itself.

The Dutch had some scores to settle as well:

The fall of Nieuw Amsterdam in 1664:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/The_fall_of_New_Amsterdam_cph.3g12217.jpg

joe on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 12:57 pm 



Wow, super troll cloggie strikes again. Though while factually acurate, remains as ever without wisdom. The global wars that brought about the industrial revolution paid for our modern world in blood. The wars are supposed to precede modernisation. Thats not whats happening in Syria, a better tomorrow is not around the corner. We are not dealing with governments and tax/investment/economic issues. These are race/tribe/religion wars, and America has picked the side of evil because America is behaving like France and Britain did in 1919. Redrawing borders and giving guns to ‘freedom loving rebels’ is in fact encouraging people to kill Americans in shopping malls, for Muslims Jihad is all the same. Americans just cant see it yet, but for muslims you are the BIGGER ASSAD, and you will be killed in your turn.

Apneaman on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 1:01 pm 



DAMASCUS, 9 September 2010

Drought pushing millions into poverty

“A top UN official warns that Syria’s drought is affecting food security and has pushed 2-3 million people into “extreme poverty”.

During a mission to Syria which ended on 7 September, Olivier de Schutter, UN special rapporteur on the right to food, said 1.3 million people had been affected by the four-year drought, 800,000 of whom had had their livelihoods devastated.

“The situation is really bad,” said Selly Muzammil, spokesperson for the World Food Programme (WFP) in Syria.

In June the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) in Syria said the drought had ended but that inconsistent rainfall was causing crop failures. Other UN agencies say the drought is ongoing.

Schutter said four consecutive droughts had affected Syria since 2006, with the drought in 2007-2008 being particularly devastating. “The losses from these repeated droughts have been significant for the population in the northeastern part of the country, particularly in Al-Hasakeh, Deir Ezzor and Al-Raqqa.”

Small-scale farmers have been worst affected. Many farmers have not been able to cultivate enough food or earn enough money to feed their families. Herders have also lost 80-85 percent of their livestock since 2005, according to UN figures. ”

http://www.irinnews.org/report/90442/syria-drought-pushing-millions-poverty

Anonymous on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 1:34 pm 



No, rockman, cloggie is correct. There is no ‘Syrian Civil War’, anymore than there was amerikan civil war. You are an oily man, not a historical man. The most concise definition of ‘civil war’, put simply as possible, is where two or (more) groups battle for control over the central gov’t. The ‘confederacy’ never had the goal of militarily defeating the north, taking control of washington, not did it aspire to run the entire uS as an enlarged ‘southern confederacy’. The goal, was independence from the uS and its central gov’t, not to ‘take control of it’.

In a similar vein, even if one is still gullible enough to swallow the ‘Syrian Civil War’ narrative, even there, it is pretty clear the actors there, are almost all external, NATO, Tel Aviv, GCC , PNAC etc. Like the confederacy, they don’t want to ‘take’ over the central govt as such either. Unlike the confederacy, their goals, and that of their operatives on the ground, USlamic state, AL-(whatever)s is balkanization and genocide of any pro-govt people, groups or organizations.

Civil wars, after they are over, end up in unified states, with the ‘winners’ in control. The Syrian situation, is all about shattering the country into as many weak, balkanized sub-units as the uS and its tag-alongs can manage. You merikans did the exact same thing to Yugoslavia, Libya, and Iraq. Now its Syria’s ‘turn’. The uS has not allowed any strong unified gov’ts to emerge or re-unify those nations either. So you can try to ‘word’ play around the issue by claiming there is some kind ‘sliding’ scale of civil ‘war-ness’ purity that some here are nitpicking over.

No one made such claims. The uS war in Syria is a dirty pipeline war. A war as a prelude to attacking Iran directly. A war against Russia and its president.

makati1 on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 6:30 pm 



Anon, many here have no clue about real history, just propaganda. Their blinders prevent them from seeing the whole picture and they refuse to remove them because the real world scares them shitless. Others have rose colored glasses that filter out anything they don’t want to see.

I suggest that many Americans are drowning themselves in social fluff and sports rather than having to look at what they suspect is the real world. I’m sure the shrinks have a name for it. Semi-conscious denial? I was there once. Comfortable place. Then I opened my eyes, took off the blinders, threw away the glasses and sobered up. My new world is uncomfortable and down right scary, but it is real and I can handle it and prepare for the future. I have no pity for the denialists who will not see and prepare for what is coming.

Cloggie on Sun, 25th Sep 2016 6:59 pm 



Pepe Escobar latest article on (US strategy in) Syria… and yes, he agrees that partition of Syria is in the cards and a hardcore archaic Salafist regime is next in the East:

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/us-road-map-balkanize-syria/ri16610

Deir Ezzor is explicitly named in US 2012 documents (the bombing of last week was no accident).

I think that this is indeed going to happen and that Assad will perhaps recaptured Aleppo, but not much more and will certainly not retake the entire country.

Escobar thinks that the pipeline Qatar-Turkey will be built. But the main result will be that Assad will be isolated geographically from Iran; the Shia axis will be broken. It remains to be seen if the prevailing alternative, the Sunni continuum Turkey – Deir Ezzor – KSA will be very beneficial for the strategic objectives of the West. Turkey will slide further away into Islamic fundamentalism and away from Europe. For right-wing identitarians it is of course a wonderful development, for the NWO not so much 🙂

Watched German talkshow tonight (Anne Will): five unbearable German lefties against one little bit right-wing American businessman (Roger Johnson, logistics, with extensive experience in Arabia), who spoke fluent German but had the nerve to going to vote for Trump. He was in Clinton’s words a “deplorable”. The theme was, why many Americans were so “beklopt” (crack-brained) to vote for Trump.

Show here…

http://www.pi-news.net/2016/09/tv-tipp-trump-bashing-bei-anne-will/

… embedded in a thread on a German right-wing pro-Trump, pro-AFD site.

Guests were EU parliament president Martin Schulz, former German finance minister Lafontaine, #1 German showstar Gotschalk, who lives in California and a broad who is hired by the Brooking Institute in Washington.

Predictably they all agreed that Trump in the White House would be a “desaster”, ignoring that he probably will defuse tensions with Russia.

Next attempts follow to explain. They all correctly agree that there is not much difference between Trump in the US and Marine le Pen in France, Wilders in Holland and the AFD in Germany. But nobody links the rise of these politicians with the enormous influx of third worlders. The best they can do is stating that there is a general feeling of “not being heard”. These people are broken beyond repair and ready to meet a 1989 of their own.

theedrich on Mon, 26th Sep 2016 3:07 am 



Thanks for the link to “Trump-Bashing bei Anne Will,” Cloggie.  I watched it all.  At that talk, there were 5 extreme leftists (including fast-talking, uber-politically-correct bitch Constanze Stelzenmüller and Martin Schulz, SPD, venom-filled Jew, president of the European Parlament) against a single American in a hatefest against Trump.  The audience, of course, was composed of carefully chosen America-haters.  The problem with the Germans is that they are suffering from a severe Yid-imposed Stockholm Syndrome as a result of having lost WW II.  Thus the German propaganda elites have swung to the unicorn-Communistic side.  Of course, they never mention the fact that Germans, and Europeans generally, have since mid-20th century conscientiously devoted themselves to genosuicide.  To obscure their own death wish, they call Americans a “Kindfolk” (childish people).  However, given their actual birthrate and leftist drivel, they simply no longer matter.

Cloggie on Mon, 26th Sep 2016 5:05 am 



@Theedrich, I sincerely doubt that Schultz iwhat you think he is:

https://youtu.be/UMyLaVQRceE

Germans are fine engineers but not the world’s greatest diplomats.

He has an extremely mediocre CV: son of a policeman, bookseller in a small German town until 1994, major of said town until 1998.

It is also not true that the indeed handpicked leftist German public “hates America”. They love the political correct, globalist America of Clinton. Das “bunte” Amerika.

The drama is the same in America as in its European colony: the leftist globalists and Soros groupies running the show in the media and in politics, morally empowered by the Nuremberg tale, but are now severely challenged on a broad front by “the ordinary people”, that neither in the US nor in Europe likes to be disposessed.

It is striking how many similarities there are between the USSR + European satellites before 1989 and the West now.

The only difference is that the West still has a more or less functioning economy.

The West is nevertheless going to “fold”, like the East in 1989, because of mass immigration. Forget peak oil/climate change. All majestically interesting topics… but not relevant now, not in this decade.

Realistic scenario: Trump gets elected and calls off the NWO and globalism. Buddies up with Russia, builds his wall and implements more mercantillistic policies, first and foremost towards China. And tells Europe it needs to pay for its own defense, with which Europe will agree. It already wants to build an EU-army but Britain always blocked that. But they Brexited so they no longer can (if Brexit really goes ahead, a big if).

Trump could have the same effect Gorbatchev had in the USSR, who said that the old ways no longer worked, which stimulated the Eastern Europeans to escape from communism.

Likewise, a retreating Trump would lead to European satraps loose their US backing and Europe could escape from the multicult ideology and begin to set up Fortress Europe and mend ties with Russia.

I think it is premature to write off both Europeans or European-Americans. Nevertheless it cannot be denied that the demographic balance is worse in America than in Europe, although the Merkel c*** tries to catch up fast. Eastern Europe is still 100% white and has no intention to alter that.

During four years of Trump, Europe could rearm. If would happen what I think is going to happen, namely the rise of secessionary movements in the US in response to changing demographics, Europe could intervene on the side of the secessionists and help the European-Americans to get rid of Washington (exactly like in 1776 when the Americans needed to be freed from the British) and retreat to the Missisipi basin:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River#/media/File:Mississippiriver-new-01.png

…and we all finally end up in a multipolar identitarian world like this:

http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4486/8rrlwfhb_jpg

…and halt the self-euthenasia of the white people world-wide.

And turn the European-Americans of Middle-America into a “new” European people (working title “Amerikaner”), just another European Volk, next to Germans, French and Russians, organized within a Commonwealth of European peoples (working title: Eurosphere).

The East coast will become another Brasil where leftist apneaman types will feed the noobtube types (according to apneaman all people are equal, so what’s the problem anyway). Furthermore we can offer Apalachian ghung a job as borderguard. He is unemployed anyway.

http://therightstuff.biz/2016/06/16/behold-i-teach-you-the-amerikaner/

Davy on Mon, 26th Sep 2016 7:09 am 



Get a grip boys your racism is a subset of a greater process of collapse. In fact your racism is irrelevant. Your movements and movement actors are going to be swallowed up and spit out like chicken bones. Notice I did not even comment on your racism as good or bad. I didn’t say right or wrong. There is no positive and negative. I just said irrelevant. You guys can spend your days in your racist rants while your world crumbs to dust. The human trends of hate will be extinguished by the trends of Ecos. No, hate is not going away just your version of it. Your hate will pop up somewhere but it may or may not be racist. Trump and Hillary are likewise irrelevant. Neither is going to produce food, oil, or tame the climate. Now, I do acknowledge they can speed up the process of collapse. They will not improve anything. This is a negative sum game with no winners.