Donald Trump’s dangerous, nonsensical energy plan

34 Comments on "Donald Trump’s dangerous, nonsensical energy plan"

Davy on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 6:33 am 



Does it matter at this point is the question. This is an election cycle so Trumps energy plan is nothing more than populous talk. If elected how likely is an energy plan mandate from Washington? Poor at best. This is nothing more than rearranging deck chairs on a sinking ship. The range of options are very limited. You are not going to revive coal or shale without market price changes. No amount of policy is going to save them. Dumping renewable subsidies will hurt but that takes policy changes and policy changes are limited out of Washington. The amount of impact of a policy change in relation to a change in the climate trend is negligible meaning we are already screwed and Washington is irrelevant. It does give the greens and browns something to argue over….like it matters dumbasses.

Where the Trump energy policy does matter is attitudes and lifestyles. It is nothing more than a promotion of the worst of American life. It promotes excessive consumption instead of conservation and resource husbandry. Trump is a failure with energy policy and the environment. The most important thing we could do now is educate people to a climate change world that is going to be very difficult on all of us. Peak oil and gas are another issues denied. The supply illusions are deceiving. The reality of economic viability of fossil resource because of peak oil dynamics is more relevant by the day especially with a failing global economy. Denial at this level is egregious. It represents a nation with a collision course for a brick wall.

Apneaman on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 6:53 am 



I’m a big supporter of Trump. He will fix this big mess.

makati1 on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 7:04 am 



AP, I would vote for Trump also, just to see what happens. Anyone is better than the other option. And if they toss, (What’s his name?) the current VP in to replace Killery They may get a surprise come election day. Or the biggest riot the US has ever seen. Could get interesting.

Cloud9 on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 7:15 am 



The sad truth is no one can get elected by telling the truth. The public will not tolerate the truth because limits undermine their dreams and dash their hopes. America will become energy independent again once the economy and the population have shrunk to a size that can be sustained. That part of the energy independence truth nobody wants to deal with.

Kenz300 on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 7:32 am 



Big Oil Could Have Cut CO2 Emissions In 1970s — But Did Nothing

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/big-oil-emissions_us_573c9d81e4b0aee7b8e8a046

Sissyfuss on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 8:21 am 



Trump is the equivalent of a twenty-first century rainmaker. He has already vanquished Calis’ drought and now will proceed to make peace with Putin, usher the US through a painless bankruptcy, and rebuild our penurious and tattered military. We rubes are all being enrolled now in Trump University where knowledge is both cheap and easy.

PracticalMaina on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 8:34 am 



Makati, Bernie supporters would lose their freaking minds if Biden got thrown in, in a contested convention. I like Biden, his sons service to this country very well could have been a contributing factor in his cancer, and Biden was a large part of the reason that our soldiers got equipment that was more IED resistant. Not that I supported the wars, but unless its Bush and Cheney and the former pres cabinet in a humvee, we should protect our members of the arm service, whatever the cost. If we can spend billions annually on ordinance, we should be able to fund the VA and provide good armor. That being said, their are 2 people running today who speak some truth, one plays to the hatred of the masses and is pandering to the science illiterate and making our predicament worst when it comes to climate. The other is calling out the system, has been a critic of the system from within for decades, and was a senator for one of the greenest states in our country, I know who I find the most qualified.

makati1 on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 8:37 am 



Cloud9, you mean when they are living 1800s lifestyles and there is no energy demand other than muscle? Who is going to mind the nuclear waste? Or would you like your daughter and son to be dying of cancer by age 20, if they could be born at all?

makati1 on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 8:43 am 



Practical, we don’t even take care of the vets that have health and mental problems now. Screw the body armor. They should not even be out of the US. If they want to sign up as a private corporate army then they take their chances and live or die with the results.

Biden’s son is in the Ukraine plundering the gas business there. just one more crook supported by that corporate army and the CIA sales division of the MIC. There are no “great senators”.

As I said. I would vote for Trump to see the shit hit the fan faster and end the empire.

PracticalMaina on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 8:49 am 



Makati, BAU kills so many daily. I see it as a trade off, nukes may end up spewing radiation globally, but at least with the end of BAU there will be an end of significant fossil fuel use and industry. Millions die every year because of combustion of fossil fuels, and it increases miscarriages. I mean there are still businesses open in the Fukushima prefecture. I understand their is some type of containment do to BAU, but I think TEPCO is more just having a circle jerk for the media.

PracticalMaina on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 8:57 am 



Makati, I agree with us not taking care of our vets. They should not be out of the US, but that is not their choice. The US should not employ private armies, and should probably condemn the use of them globally. Our soldiers have to follow the rules of engagement, and get paid dick, work for Blackwater, do whatever you want, (results in it being easier for terrorist to recruit) get paid a couple hundred gs tax free, and probably have better equipment, it is pure capitalist bullshit.
Haven’t heard the theory of Bidens son being over in Ukraine. There is at least a couple decent senators, IMHO and we have the opportunity to elect one for higher office at this time.

PracticalMaina on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 8:58 am 



there and due… gotta love when you look back old posts and notice multiple errors.

makati1 on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 9:02 am 



Practical, the draft ended long ago. The ones in the military now are “volunteers”. I do not pity them. Nor do I support them. I had no choice when I was 21. They did.

“Vice President Joe Biden’s youngest son Hunter Biden has joined the board of directors of Ukraine’s largest oil company at a time that the U.S. is urging Ukraine to develop energy independence from Russia and just days after the vice president visited Ukraine.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/05/bidens-son-gets-ukrainian-oil-company-gig/

This was not long after the US overthrew the elected government there.

ghung on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 9:02 am 



What is it they say about putting the inmates in charge of the asylum? Anyway, it’s beginning to seem appropriate somehow.

makati1 on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 9:03 am 



ghung, well said!

JuanP on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 9:36 am 



I agree that the way they treat US veterans with health problems appears to be significantly less than ideal based on what little I know of the subject. Even if I disagree with what those men did abroad that got them where they are today, I believe they should receive proper healthcare and support. Most soldiers and sailors were young, naive, idealistic, or lacked better opportunities at the time they joined the service. Some older ones were even forced to fight by the draft.

I think that TPTB are using the VA as a political tool to make their point that the US government can’t possibly manage healthcare for all properly. I believe that the VA is being purposefully mismanaged to serve a political end for TPTB. It’s sick and depraved!

JuanP on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 9:51 am 



Irecommend these books about rainwater harvesting. http://www.harvestingrainwater.com/books/volume1/

I wonder how much Trump knows and understands about energy.

That California drought map is interesting. It seems this year’s huge El Niño has given California one or two extra years to prepare for future megadroughts. Raise your hand if you think California will use this time intelligently to prepare! LOL! They are going to waste 9 out of 10 opportunities, but some people will prepare better.

efarmer on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 12:04 pm 



When Trump speaks I always sit down on the floor. When someone talks out of their ass, it is easier to hear down low like that. I hear very well folks, in fact I hear him bigly, bigly folks!

Apneaman on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 1:04 pm 



A Tyranny Years in the Making

“If you do manage to say loudly enough that free markets no longer make free men, our marketer-in-chief himself may show you his happy women and call you a loser. Or one of his apologists may call you a socialist—or even, irony of ironies, a “vulgar” Marxist, as democratic leftists who became market-loving neoliberals used to call others who didn’t.

Rats in a maze can’t pause in amazement to assess and even change the incentives that keep them running. But humans can wonder why markets have become the only measures of value in education, scientific research, news reporting, and cultural endeavors, and even love.”

http://democracyjournal.org/arguments/a-tyranny-years-in-the-making/

penury on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 2:57 pm 



Would someone please post the policy position and the name of the candidate proposing it, which makes more sense, and is actually possible. Please. Beuler, Beuler?

sidzepp on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 6:16 pm 



The only reason the Trump is where he is today as the likely Republican nominee is because of the way the news media covered him during the late ’15 campaign. It is quite possible that he received more media coverage than the other 16 candidates combined. In a nation that has become more polarized in the last several decades when some idiot that appears to have a bad hair day every day opens his mouth there will be illiterate flies that swarm to him.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-mammoth-advantage-in-free-media.html?_r=0

makati1 on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 6:41 pm 



Sid, and the US is full of “illiterate flies” is it not? LOL

The man is a master of manipulation and gets, for free, what other runners-up have to pay for. Whatever he may be, he is not stupid. You do not get to be a billionaire by not knowing how the world works and what motivates people. Bernie and Billary are no match.

Like any other politician, I do not expect any of his promises to be carried through, but he will definitely shake up the status quo in DC. IF he is not killed in some “accident”.

makati1 on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 6:46 pm 



Ap, good article. Liked this part:

“The more that impulse-buying and escapism become the measures of our well-being, the more we’re like flies trapped in the spider’s web of the 800-numbered, sticky-fingered pick-pocketing machines with which lenders, insurers, pharmaceutical producers are dissolving our freedoms, not out of malevolence or conspiracy but out of mindless, routinized greed. We resort to palliatives in pills, vials, syringes, elaborate home-security systems, and vapid spectacles punctuated by mob-like cries for an American Augustus who’ll make our nation great again.”

Perfect description of America today.

GregT on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 7:37 pm 



Simpsons writer says President Trump episode was ‘warning to US’

“Writer of Bart to the Future episode, aired almost exactly 16 years ago, says idea was consistent with vision of US ‘going insane’”

“It was intended, according to its creator, as a “warning to America”, a horrifying and fantastical vision of the future in which the US – ludicrously – had elected as its president Donald Trump.
But with the property billionaire now the favourite to gain the Republican nomination for the presidency, the episode of The Simpsons that in 2000 foresaw such a laughable outcome has begun looking unnervingly prescient.”

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/mar/17/simpsons-president-trump-prediction-was-meant-as-warning-to-us

makati1 on Thu, 2nd Jun 2016 9:07 pm 



GregT, fascinating! I didn’t watch the Simpsons so I missed it. LOL

Anonymous on Fri, 3rd Jun 2016 1:38 am 



Prez trumpster has no ‘energy plan’ other than the one the uS has always had. Disrupt world energy markets, topple gov’ts that have the temerity to want to control their own oil resources, suck north and south America dry of whatever energy supplies happen to lie outside the borders of the uS, regardless of their quality or cost.

Invade,smash, destroy, assassinate, subvert,(and waste) or some combination of all the above, is the only ‘energy policy’ of the empire.

Go Speed Racer on Fri, 3rd Jun 2016 1:48 am 



Trump will make America great again.

This means he will deport all the fat stupid people at Wal-Mart. He will replace them with swimsuit models and weight-lifters imported from East Germany.

Vote Trump. Life’s a bitch, don’t elect one.

Davy on Fri, 3rd Jun 2016 5:01 am 



This is out on the streets but just think what is going on behind the scenes. Looks like it will be a hot summer on the streets of the US.

“Trump Supporters “Terrorized” In Massive San Jose Street Brawl As Police “Lose Control”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-03/trump-supporters-terrorized-massive-san-jose-street-brawl-police-lose-control

“Shocking scenes are occuring on the streets of San Jose as anti-Trump supporters are chased, punched, kicked, and, as ABC News’ Tom Llamas reports “terrorized” as the local police “appears to have lost control.” Mobs of protestors, many carrying mexican flags, took over the streets ahead of a Trump rally branding tire irons and burning American flags.”

PracticalMaina on Fri, 3rd Jun 2016 8:17 am 



Violence begets violence Trump supporters. I doubt his wealth, I think that may have been a part of him running, political office in this country, even running for them, is highly profitable. Someone give me millions and I guarantee I can come up with more than a 747 and a hot Eastern European chick on my arm.

Stuifzand on Fri, 3rd Jun 2016 3:03 pm 



Talking about Trump and his supporters, the latter are being chased in San Jose (CA) as we speak. Becoming an ethnic majority is always a bad idea. Gonna be a hot summer.

The US could be over before Herr Drumpf gets a chance of establishing his Trumpenreich.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWIMt9JxugQ

Fortunately Europe has thousands and thousands of wide body aircraft to come to the aid of the Euros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3wPQgMAll8

Hundreds of thousands lightly armed could be deployed in a matter of days.

#kickcaliforniabackintomexico
#reverse1945
#reverse1776

Davy on Fri, 3rd Jun 2016 3:23 pm 



Stuif, I think you Swedes have your hands full with your dumbass idea to turn your entire country into one big hostel for Middle Easterners.

Stuifzand on Fri, 3rd Jun 2016 3:36 pm 



I despise the Swedish elite just as you do, as I do despise “my own” Dutch elite of US multiculti satraps and George Soros worshippers.

But Western-Europe is rapidly approaching its own 1989. And it is going to be much more bloody than in Eastern Europe as you can abolish a useless commie economic system overnight, but you can’t beam 30 million Muzzies back to the sandbox without a fight.

On the other hand, Europeans are very good at deporting. Perhaps it is symbolic that Crimean Muslim Tatars won the Eurovision song contest this year with a song about deportation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxS6eKEOdLQ

But America is going to be much bloodier,
1. because of unfavorable demographic balance white/non-white (60/40 and 50/50 at young fighting age) where in Europe it is 90/10 and
2. the presence of 100 million or so Azteks living in Mexico, who could stream into the US unhindered to come to the aid of their brethren and take back pre-1861 Mexican territory.

The world is soon going to look very different from today.

Davy on Fri, 3rd Jun 2016 4:15 pm 



Sorry, Stuif, you forgot about Europe is a union of countries that hate each other under their breath. Once the pie shrinks enough you Europeans will be slaughtering yourselves like you always have but this time you will have the wanting masses from south and east at it too. It is going to be one big ass Malstrom. I am actually glad I am in the poor part of North America where no one wants to be. It will help when times get hard to have less people.

Stuifzand on Fri, 3rd Jun 2016 4:30 pm 



I don’t think so. There is Europe-wide a general sense that Europe is under threat from the south. The EGKS/EEC/EC/EU is around since 1950 and pretty much accomplished to eliminate old hostilities. And as long as France and Germany stick together, they both have more than enough gravitas to keep the lot together. And then their is the rising super power China, which will force Moscow in the direction of Europe.

Putin confirmed as late as June 2014 (four months after EuroMaidan) that his aim is a Greater European confederation (Paris-Berlin-Moscow) and every right-winger in Europe is open to the idea of “Europe of the Fatherlands”. including Russia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvbS09gN80

[16:39] – “Francois Mitterrand spoke of a European confederation with Russia as a member. I think this opportunity still exists. We will have it in the future.”

You are going to need as pall, when large parts of the US will be on fire, with the enemy of European America in power in Washington.

And yes, Missouri is indeed a good place to survive the coming ordeal.