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If one were to turn on the television right now, the mainstream media would be painting the picture of an economy that is in a recovery and a U.S. dollar that is strong as ever. Yet there is a strong contingency of people on the Internet declaring the U.S. dollar is heading for a major collapse of proportions not yet seen before. The obvious question to ask is: how can there be two radically different ideas on the state of the U.S. dollar at the same point in time? Logically, one would have to concede that they both can’t be right. The mainstream media, which continues to influence the majority of society, paints the pretty picture of a strong economic recovery based on low unemployment, high stock markets, and increased credit availability. On the contrary, a case could be made for an imminent U.S. dollar collapse. Let’s dive deep into the rumors, the facts and everything in between.
This is a complex issue, with no simple one-cause answer to explain it. Instead, the case stems from a combination of forces, all adding up to a potentially historic collapse. The best place to start might be the basic understanding that all money created within society today is fiat currency, as well as an instrument of debt. Fiat currency is currency that derives its value from confidence and law alone, rather than a currency like gold, which is a physical precious metal with other uses such as being a commodity. Fiat money is an instrument of debt because it is loaned into society rather than spent into existence. To understand this, one must grasp the concepts of fractional-reserve banking and central banking.
Fractional-reserve banking is a practice in which banks take in deposits, but only hold a fraction of the deposit (frequently 10% but sometimes even 0%) in their reserves. The rest of deposit is considered bank credit and can then be loaned out at interest to someone else. A major problem with this type of banking practice is that the money supply becomes far greater than the base supply of money originally created. Another way to phrase this is that there is much more credit in the market then actual money to be earned. This is known as the money multiplier effect. For example, if someone were to deposit $100 in a bank, the bank would hold 10% of the deposit ($10) in reserve and then loan out the other $90. If this $90 were deposited again in another bank, the bank would also put 10% ($9) in reserve and loan out the rest. A $100 deposit could therefore lead up to almost $1000 added to the money supply ($100 actual base money, 900 bank credit). When this is done on a mass scale, one can easily see how a large accumulation of credit would build up in society, especially when the same money is loaned many times over. This also means there is a large amount of debt, since credit is debt that needs to be paid back like a loan. Society needs constant access to loans to pay back its existing debt. There would be no money if all debt was paid back and only through perfect money flow can this system stay balanced.
Another major factor is central banks. A central bank is an institution that manages the state’s currency, money supply, and interest rates. The U.S. central bank, The Federal Reserve, plays a major role in the money supply by having the sole ability to enact monetary policy to increase or decrease the supply of the U.S. dollar; hardly do they ever decrease the money supply. The printing press is a powerful tool for the central bank. When the U.S. government needs more money, it issues government treasury bonds in exchange for Federal Reserve Notes (U.S. dollars) that the Federal Reserve simply printed into existence on a bank account balance of zero. They simply just created credit through their legal authority. Therefore, the government of the United States creates money through taking on debt by issuing treasuring bonds (IOU’s), which the Federal Reserve buys up with it’s own printing press of IOU’s and collects interest on the bonds. Simply put, the United States pays interest on the printing of its own money rather than simply printing it itself and spending it into existence.
What is even scarier, is the fact that The Federal Reserve, is an independent agency of the United States. It is not a government agency, but rather a privately owned institution of which the owner is actually unknown because it was formed in secret and has never been fully audited in its 102-year history. Proponents of a detailed Federal Reserve audit, like Zero Hedge, claim,
“The Fed should be audited as a brokerage firm would be — its financial holdings, its transactions, market orders, emails and phone calls.”
But those at the Fed claim it will obstruct their autonomy. Weirdly enough, the two presidents, JFK and Abraham Lincoln, who had tried to abolish the Federal Reserve and nationalize the central bank to print its own money, were both assassinated.
To quickly recap, one can see that through fractional reserve banking a huge accumulation of credit builds up in society, well above its base value. One also notices that the central bank has possibly the most power in society, being that it controls the money supply, as well as traps the entire nation in its web of debt, since all new money is loaned into existence by the central bank rather than spent. The nation is the borrower and therefore must pay the central bank back. Finally, the most devastating effect of the current form of money creation is interest. When money is created by printing or making a bank loan, lets say $100 dollars for example, only the principal of $100 exists. Where does the interest come from if only the principal is created? A simple way to think about this is to look at it as if one were to start a new country. If a country was sought to be started through the current system, the government would spend 100 million new dollars into existence through a loan given to them by the central bank, of which they must pay back. Since there was only 100 million dollars created to start the society, how can the people pay back the principal plus interest on that loan if only the principal of 100 million dollars exist? Once again, done on a mass scale, one can see this creates a massive buildup of credit, or in other words debt, that can never be logically paid back because it doesn’t even exist in the first place. It’s a nation in constant debt to its banks; debt slaves.

Now that some basic fundamentals have been explained, one can dive a little deeper into the real meat of the issue. The first major observation is the huge accumulation of debt in society. In many senses, the United States (also much of the world), has become a buy now (through credit, which is debt) pay later society. For this reason, massive amounts of credit are issued, which leads to increasingly massive amounts of debt in society. Debt is not necessarily a terrible thing, as Zero Hedge points out,
“Our networked economy requires debt in order to extract fossil fuels from the ground and to create renewable energy sources, for several reasons: (a) Producers don’t have to save up as much money in advance, (b) Middle-men making products that use energy products (such cars and refrigerators) can “finance” their factories, so they don’t have to save up as much, (c) Consumers can afford to buy “big-ticket” items like homes and cars, with the use of plans that allow monthly payments, so they don’t have to save up as much, and (d) Most importantly, debt helps raise the price of commodities of all sorts (including oil and electricity), because it allows more customers to afford products that use them.”
However, the degree to which debt is used is very importance to the equation. Right now, it’s proposed that the average American household is $203,163 in debt. The Federal Reserve doesn’t set a limit to money creation, but instead it sets interest rates, which affects how many loans are made, the interest paid on those loans, as well as the health of the overall economy. High interest rates usually mean the economy is going well.
On the contrary, elevated amounts of money printing at low-interest rates can lead to many problems. First, it naturally leads to constant inflation. Inflation is often a hidden tax on the public because as prices increase, money saved loses purchasing power. This largely affects the lower rungs of society disproportionately. Easy, cheap money printing can also lead to a build up of large financial bubbles. For example, if the Federal Reserve is printing large amounts of money at low-interest rates, investment might flow heavily into certain assets and prices will naturally rise, but if there is a weak economy with no middle class, then there is very few buyers for the investments. Basically, the investments are overvalued since they don’t match up with the real demand and the ability of most consumers to purchase. This then encourages predatory lending to encourage spending. Since money is cheap and banks don’t have to put much collateral down to make loans, predatory lending is a common practice to make easy money with little risk. Predatory lending is when banks make loans to people at amounts that they are probably not able to pay back. This a win-win for the banks because they made the loan without any collateral since most loans are just bank credit derived from a small portion of deposits. Whereas the person taking the loan has to put up their asset as collateral. If the bank feels these loans will go bad, they can just bet on them to fail in the derivatives market.
A largely misunderstood field, the derivatives market is nothing more than an unregulated casino where people make bets on instruments that derive their value from the performance of an underlying entity. Bets can be made on a wide variety of things, from betting on the price of a stock to go down, to betting on the interest rate to go up on a certain date, or even betting on loans to fail. Sometimes even betting on whole countries to default on their loans (Greece?). The casino is not only run and operated by the big four (Goldman Sachs, JP. Morgan, Cititgroup, and Bank of America), but the biggest bettors in the casino are also the big four. They make up an estimated 94.4% of the risk on the derivative market, which is an estimated $1.2 QUADRILLION market.

This is why this type of derivatives market, where one could regulate the market while also being allowed to bet in it, was previously illegal by law as a form of gambling until the year 2000. This is especially dangerous when such massive institutions are involved and make up virtually the entire market. Their downfall in the derivatives market can literally crush the entire global economy. This was all sanctioned by law when Bill Clinton smashed through the regulations in 2000, destroying the Glass-Steagall Act and allowing for a widely deregulated casino market to exist with little to no distinction between the rules for commercial banks and investment banks. To make the situation worse (at least for the average American), even in the event that the house looses (to itself), the public bails them out because they’re “too big to fail.” The banks never lose.
The 2008 bailout was allowed to happen because the U.S. Federal government is so indebted (because of its own excessive money creation from expansion and constant budget deficits) that it has put itself at the mercy of the banks, its creditor. In many ways, the banks (Wall Street) regulate the government and not the other way around. A budget deficit is when a government spends more than it produces in revenue. This is in large part, due to an ever-expanding Federal government mainly brought on by the economic theory known as Keynesian economics. Keynesian economics teaches the view that in the short-run, especially during recessions, economic output is strongly influenced by total spending in the economy. In a recession or depressions, the government can “stimulate” spending by having the Federal Reserve enact monetary policy (money printing) while the government enacts fiscal policy by investing in its infrastructure. Keynesian economic policy was used to counteract the Great Depression, by the signing of the New Deal in 1933, by Teddy Roosevelt. Keynes’s had designed this to be a short run tactic to stimulate the economy back to normal business level cycles, but instead it has been used much longer then anyone expected. See, once the federal government invests, it often grows in size and function and doesn’t return back to the level it was before. In fact, it has been growing fairly consistently since the federal income tax was started in 1913; ironically the same year the Federal Reserve came about. While in pure spending terms the U.S. Federal Government hasn’t grown each year since 1913, if one takes into account its power as an entity, then it definitely has grown each year. It has transformed from a small Federal government meant to protect the rights of its citizens, to a large apparatus designed to further the countries financial well-being in whatever way it sees fit. Economics has become its purpose now, not the will of the people. It seems to make sense since its commonly understood today that money rules politics.
Stimulating the economy might increase spending, but the government is in massive amounts of debt as a result. In fact, the U.S. government has run a budget deficit in 63 out of the last 75 years. The system is basically piling on more debt to try to stimulate the economy to pay the original debt off. This naturally leads to a constant expansion of the money supply, because more money (debt) is needed to pay off debt since it exceeds the base supply in existence. If the economy doesn’t grow constantly in a debt society like this, it will logically collapse unless money expansion is constant enough to secure the nation doesn’t default on its current debt. Keynesian economics has been quite influential since the 2008 collapse, being that the U.S. has been printing massive amounts of money at 0% interest rates, trying to stimulate the economy. This questionable domestic policy has supremely indebted the U.S. and inflated its whole economy. This is obvious because prices have been in a constant state of inflation since around 1933 when the New Deal was signed.

This begs the question: How is the U.S. able to get away with this and maintain the appearance as a recovering economy? This leads to a much greater overarching layer at play on the macroeconomic stage; the U.S. losing its role as the World Reserve Currency.
In July of 1944 at the Bretton Woods conference, the leaders of the 44 allied nations gathered in an attempt to rebuild the international economic system, even amidst the fighting still going on in WWII. During the conference, a new monetary order was established in which each country was to adopt a monetary policy that maintained the exchange rate of its currency to gold at a fixed rate and for the newly created International Monetary Fund (IMF) to bridge temporary imbalances in payment. This was designed so countries couldn’t cheat, because they all had to tie their currency to a fixed price for a certain amount of gold. Since the U.S. had around two thirds of the world’s gold at the time, they decided that international transactions would be converted to the U.S. dollar since it had a lot of gold and gold just wasn’t a realistic option. All countries in agreement were supposed to tie the value of their currency to the U.S. dollar and the U.S. was supposed to tie its currency directly to gold, but this was on the honor system. Countries were allowed to purchase gold from the U.S. at the fixed amount in order to keep them honest. This agreement allowed the U.S. dollar to be pegged as the world reserve currency.
From this point forward, most international trade would be done in U.S. dollars, thus countries needed to have large supplies of U.S. dollars in their reserves. Since there had to be tons of U.S. dollars in circulation for this to work, the U.S. had to run trade-deficits in order for there to be enough liquidity in the global market. Since the U.S. had superior technology for manufacturing, it didn’t want to import goods in exchange for dollars, so instead it traded dollars at huge profits with developing countries to acquire their raw materials and expand U.S. industries abroad. It then exported those profits to Europe through programs like the Marshall Plan to rebuild their economy, provide liquidity, and eventually export those products back to the United States. However, a big problem began to arise. Since the U.S. dollar was tied to gold, countries could convert their currencies at the agreed upon rate of $35 per ounce of gold. Holding dollars was more valuable for countries than gold due to its liquidity, but that’s only if the currencies value matched its fixed gold convertibility ratio. Since the U.S. had to keep running deficits domestically to keep up with the growing liquidity in the global market, as well as an increased government apparatus, the confidence in the dollar began to erode as countries began to speculate it was supremely overvalued. The gold price in the black market become higher than the fixed amount. The problem of domestic monetary policy affecting world currency reserve requirements internationally is known as Triffin’s dilemma.
Domestically there was a huge amount of public debt from wars, vast money inflation through fractional reserve banking and Federal Reserve policy, and a negative balance of payment amounts, while internationally the world was rapidly loosing confidence in the U.S. dollar as a world reserve currency. Countries wanted their gold back instead of dollars, which lead to a huge decline in U.S. gold reserves, before eventually culminating in the Nixon Shock, in which President Nixon halted the direct convertibility of U.S. dollars into gold at the fixed amount. Countries were unhappy, so to prop the value of the dollar back up, Nixon made a deal with Saudi Arabia and ultimately other OPEC nations, to provide them arms and protection (military support), while in exchange they agree to make all oil sales in U.S. dollars. This gave rise to what is known and the Petro-dollar. It secured that dollars would be essential for almost all nations to hold in order to buy the world’s most sought after asset, oil. It is no wonder the U.S. is always invading countries for oil. It’s also clear how the U.S. can do such damage by enlisting economic sanctions, being that international trade is quite difficult without U.S. dollars. It should also come as no surprise either that any country that attempts to break away from U.S. dollar hegemony, by establishing new international trade systems in currencies outside the web of U.S. dollar, are considered threatening or dangerous. The list of countries include Russia, China, Iraq, Libya, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, and Syria amongst others.
Hopefully the picture is starting to come together now. By using the ferocious capability of U.S. military, the U.S. has successfully protected the U.S. dollar from a collapse for quite some time. Because of it’s title as the world’s reserve currency, it has been able to rack up large amounts of public and private debt on the credit card, dominate geopolitics, and police the world, all because the world financial system is so heavily tied to dollars. The U.S. literally exports its inflation to other countries. It’s very hard to tell where the dollar’s value ultimately is these days because the system is so large, the Federal Reserve is so secret, and U.S. propaganda is so engulfing. The U.S. has basically been allowed to raise its standard of living largely through an unfair system. However, all good things must come to an end.
The U.S. is in the midst of a major problem. The U.S. dollar is hugely inflated compared to its true value, but kept artificially strong through the geopolitical protection of its use in international trade. The U.S. might have been able to keep this going for a lot longer, but it’s extremely weak national economy might lead to an internal collapse first. With the excessive money printing, large budget deficits, and weak trade balance, the U.S. economy is on the verge of a collapse. There is essentially way too much debt in the system and not enough economic activity due to a massive inequality gap. The only thing keeping the system going and allowing the U.S. to avoid default on payments of its debt, is the military, media, and printing press. The media has misled the public on how the U.S. uses its military as well as how the Federal Reserve has kept the economy on life support through Quantitative Easing 1, 2, 3, and maybe infinity. Quantitative easing is basically a glorified form of money printing in which the Fed buys financial assets from commercial banks and other institutions in exchange for newly printed money. This is mostly achieved by buying long-term assets instead of short-term bonds to ensure the owner receives a greater yield and instant liquidity. However, with so much debt in the system and a poor economy, the apparent question is whether these assets the Fed purchases are worth anything at all; as well as whether the U.S. economy can even function without constant money printing. This has been done at zero interest rates since 2008, in the hopes of a massive stimulus to the economy. Yet, 7 years in, what has it achieved?
The problem is that there are no buyers in the market because the middle class has been virtually abolished. Federal Reserve money printing, especially during quantitative easing, only makes the wealth gap worse as those closest to the Fed, like banks, government, and corporations, receive most of the money. Profits go up as they invest, but once again, when no one has money to spend, these investments are nothing but bubbles on the verge of popping. Another problem is that the middle class gets trapped in debt as well because there are not enough good jobs to keep up with the price increases, so people take out loans to purchase big items like cars, houses, or to pay for college, as well as to run up the credit cards just to get by month to month. That isn’t real growth and has molded the U.S. into what Chris Hedges refers to as a “neo-feudal” society, in which you have a super elite ownership class. Everyone else in the lower working class is reliant on its masters to rent from and survive. There is no smooth transition up the chain anymore. The U.S. continues to ignore the fact that it needs an underlying makeover of its social system. Yet instead, it simply kicks the can down the road and inflates the bubble even larger. This only makes the crash worse in the end because it just adds on more debt to society and rewards the mega-rich with artificial profits.

To give the appearance of a recovering economy, clever tactics are implemented, like using newly printed money for stock buybacks to increase earnings per share, as well as using high frequency traders in the derivatives market, which can artificially pull the market up by itself. Another way to boost profits and increase inequality is through job layoffs as well as a build up of part-time work that lacks benefits. The deepest deception method however, might be the media. The media, which is owned by many of the same power players in banking and corporations (since these groups finance the media) can distract people, fuel the perception of a thriving economy, and keep this whole thing one big secret. This is what propaganda is, and the U.S. is king of that particular hill.
There is no longer true investigative journalism today in the mainstream. CNN, as well as almost every other mainstream media outlet has eliminated their investigative journalism divisions because sadly, it is no longer profitable, so information is constantly skewed towards a false narrative. Take unemployment numbers for example, in which they use a clever tactic of omitting people from their numbers who stopped looking for a job as well as not putting into context the build-up of part-time work and loss of good paying full-time work. Another example is housing sales, where the price numbers appears to be strong, but if one looks closer they see much of it is investment by large investors with access to cheap Fed money, therefore high prices are inflated and buyers eventually dry up. This is why many large investment companies have bought large amounts of property and rented it out at a high price rather than selling it; bleed them forever. It’s a better way to keep extracting profit and still own an asset. One can also see the numbers fudged in retail as well as stocks and bonds.
The fact is, the U.S. has all the signs of a major economic collapse: high unemployment, weak retail sails, 0% interest rates for an extended period of time, huge layoff numbers, no middle class, and high amounts of debt. One can only ignore reality for so long before the bubble completely implodes and slaps one in the face. If it were to implode, it would be catastrophic. A massive deflation in the valuation of capital assets could result, leading to huge drop in the stock market and a panic in the confidence of the U.S. dollar, which could then turn into a run on the banks, and even ultimately a hyperinflation of the currency. If the world loses its confidence in the dollar and decides to facilitate international trade in other currencies, all those dollars could come crashing home and an external explosion of hyperinflation is all but certain. The U.S. has printed far too much to escape its debt at this point and at the same time can’t stop printing money if it is to continue making payments on the debt. It trapped itself within a vortex that it might not be able to escape. In many ways it can be compared to the build up of an enormous international ponzi scheme that is in its final days of funny money life support before an massive socio-economic collapse.
There are already clear signs of the world de-dollarizing, as China and Russia are dumping massive amounts of treasury stock therefore depleting high portions of their reserves. To help the transition, a new central bank called BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa) has formed to provide adequate liquidity for international trade outside dollars. This has allowed tons of trade agreements between nations wishing to trade outside the dollar to pop up. This fear of a U.S. dollar collapse has convinced many to invest in alternative currencies such as gold, silver, foreign assets, Bitcoin, and even completely new currencies. These are financial assets that are outside the U.S. dollar system and could protect one if a large crash were to occur. People will argue that precious metal prices are low, which they are. However, many argue that the precious metal markets are rigged at artificially low prices by the same trick of creating an overabundance of paper claims to precious metals way above the actual physical amount in existence. Since most people don’t want to actually physically hold their gold or silver, this is able to persist and subdue the price by meeting demand. It’s important to keep the price of gold and silver low because usually when their price goes high, it’s a signal the dollar is losing value. People also fail to take into account that several mints around the world have problems meeting the current high demand for physical currencies.
A crash of this magnitude would undoubtedly cause social chaos for some time and possibly even provoke the government to invoke martial law to maintain order of an economic system with no valuable liquidity to oil its engine. There are also many who believe that most wars, even the current fight in Syria, are all based upon U.S. dollar dominance. In Syria, the U.S. and its Middle-Eastern allies in the Gulf who protect the U.S. dollar as world reserve currency in exchange for military protection, want to build a gas pipeline from the Gulf through Syria and eventually into Europe to provide the European market with gas. This would guarantee the use of U.S. dollars for oil in a very large market. However, Russia, the current supplier of most of Europe’s oil, as well as China and Iran, are looking to break away from the dollar in what is being called in China, “The Great Shift.” Some believe this could culminate at a boiling point and lead to WWIII: U.S./NATO/Arab Gulf States on one side, and China, Russia, Iran, and a few select others as their adversaries. Some believe there will only be a shift in global monetary power, while others just believe this is all a lie and conspiracy.
Certainly this is a lot of information to take in. What one does with the information presented here is entirely up to them to decide. Just remember, this wouldn’t be the first time a fiat currency collapsed. In fact, all fiat currencies eventually collapse, even vast empires like the Roman Empire. It should also be noted that the world is ever so interconnected today, and therefore a collapse of the U.S. dollar would no doubt lead to a global crisis. It’s not as if other nations are not equally buried in debt. In fact, the Euro and Japanese Yen are clearly struggling on cheap credit life support as well.
On the other end, this could be a positive collapse. It might be hard to see now in the short-term, but in the long-run, global trade could become more balanced in terms of equal value for both sides, ensuring greater chances of enduring peace in the world. This is just part of life. Sometimes one has to go through pain and failure in order to grow. It doesn’t seem morally right for the U.S. to continue to wage war on nations who refuse to accept the dollar just so the U.S. can maintain it current way of life. This is a new world now, and new systems are necessary. Technology has given rise to unprecedented possibility, but they can’t be fully explored until strong social systems are aligned with them. Maybe it’s time for a new system. Do American citizens really want to risk the threat of international nuclear war over this economic system? Is a system built on this much credit even real anyways? One doesn’t usually get to experience the fruits of his labor before labor begins. Maybe a new balance is necessary. Maybe the United States needs a wake-up call. It doesn’t have to be viewed as an end, but maybe just a new beginning.
So will the U.S. dollar collapse? I don’t know. The best advice I can give is to do your own research and think for yourself with an open mind. It’s up for you to decide at this point. Thoughts provoke actions, so choose wisely.
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49 Comments on "Is the U.S. Dollar Going to Collapse?"
Davy on Mon, 19th Oct 2015 7:30 pm
Pretty much entry level understanding stuff. Read a couple of BC’s comments and ditch this article that is unless you lack the basics.
makati1 on Mon, 19th Oct 2015 7:50 pm
Collapse, probably not. Decline in usage by the rest of the world, yes. That will cause a corresponding decline in the lifestyle of Americans and level the playing field.
Will it happen fast, i.e. several years? Could, depending on a lot of black swans circling NYC and DC. Even a collapse is possible if you consider less than a year as collapse speed.
We shall see. Best to not have all/most of your future in a dollar lined nest egg, is my thought.
idontknowmyself on Mon, 19th Oct 2015 8:03 pm
Another Canadian bank is laying off workers. First it was National bank now it is TD bank.
TD cutting jobs in ‘review’ of Canadian operations
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/td-cutting-jobs-in-review-of-canadian-operations-1.3278524
Some people think that oil represent 40% of Canadian GDP. I was biking today, and on two streets in Montreal area I counted 10 houses for sales.
I am not surprised to see bank making layoff. The housing market in Canada is now collapsing.
Very soon, there will be no valid currency to do international trade. As people losing confidence in financial institutions and political elites.
Rodster on Mon, 19th Oct 2015 8:04 pm
The USD will be the last currency standing. If the USD collapses then you’ll have “Economic Armageddon” because all the economies around the world are interlinked.
We are at a point where if China sneezes the world catches a cold and if the US farts the world gets constipated. That’s one of the many perks of Globalization, NAFTA, TPP etc.
So the moral of the story is you don’t want the USD to collapse even if you hate the US because VERY BAD things will begin to HAPPEN.
Davy on Mon, 19th Oct 2015 8:15 pm
At some point the currency of choice will be related to food and fuel. I am not sure how that is going to shake out but those in charge will need to ensure those basics or “that’s all she wrote”.
Rodster on Mon, 19th Oct 2015 8:34 pm
Those in charge are hoping for chaos and it’s why they are securing their getaway hideouts because TPTB want to reduce the global population. George Soros, Henry Kissinger, Ted Turner and a host of others have said we have way too many on this planet.
deadlykillerbeaz on Mon, 19th Oct 2015 8:46 pm
Might want to own some gold and silver because those two metals have some value no matter what. It takes 2000 years of experience to learn the lesson all over again. A piece of paper with a picture of a clown president might not be worth much after the collapse. You do what you want, but money in the form of currency ain’t going to save anybody’s sorry ass in the future.
makati1 on Mon, 19th Oct 2015 9:50 pm
Rodster, of course they will happen. They are gong to happen eventually no matter what happens to the dollar. So, collapse now and get it over while there is still some ecology left to keep us alive. Who gives a f**k if the globalization disintegrates? Not me.
Read my Avatar. If you are not prepared … so be it.
BC on Mon, 19th Oct 2015 10:00 pm
Thanks, Davy. You beat me to it. 😀
In CPI and gold terms, the US$ crashed 95% from the early to mid-1970s to early to mid-1980s, and 70-75% from 2000-02 to 2011-12.
IOW, the US$ has already crashed against gold.
Because physical gold is such a small market vs. equities, bonds, and myriad two-, three-, and four-times removed derivatives and derivatives on derivatives, gold is largely already owned by those primary buyers with intention of buying and holding, including central banks.
Historically, gold has maintained its purchasing power against 2-3 primary metrics I’ll keep proprietary, but suffice it to say that gold is approximately at “fair value” (always elusive) in the $1,100s-$1,200s vs. its historical purchasing power against the aforementioned metrics.
But that does not mean that the price of gold can’t fall to, or below, US$1,000/oz. coincident with deflation and US$ par or higher.
Bullion should not be considered an “investment” or even a “prudent speculation” but “insurance” against the mischief of banksters and politicos.
Neither is gold “money”. Try to use an eagle or maple leaf coin or 1-gm gold bar at the grocery store or at your local pub for your favorite ale. You’ll walk away empty handed, apart from your yellow metal.
The barbarous relic is still priced in terms of Federal Reserve debt-money credit currency, which is still the “coin” of the Anglo-American imperial realm.
BC on Mon, 19th Oct 2015 10:36 pm
GregT, ‘Merikan Demon-crazies and Republi-cons will have to face the music of Liberals’ victory in Oh, Canada! and dance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLZfhHW98Os
😀
ghung on Mon, 19th Oct 2015 10:52 pm
What most folks miss in terms of gold’s relative uselessness as a true commodity is that, in any case of fiat currency failure, everybody’s in the same jamb, from governments to banks all the way down to JoeNextDoor. Means of exchange are untrustworthy. Indestructible precious metals have always been the goto currency when all other currencies fail. When everyone around you doesn’t have the means to pay their property taxes, if you show up to the Courthouse with a few American Gold Eagles, it’s a good bet they’ll accept that as payment.
Gold has been the universal Wampum for millennia, and people haven’t changed much.
Tim on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 12:17 am
It was Franklin, not Teddy, who passed the New Deal.
GregT on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 12:20 am
Yah BC, DK is pretty awesome. She get’s a lot of air time at our place when we’re chilling.
The Liberals’ victory marks the end of an era. One of the first things that Trudeau vows to do is to bring the troops back home. Harper’s stance on militarism and his Bill C51 (anti terrorism legislation) were very unpopular with most Canadians. We’ve always taken pride in being a country of peacekeeping and diplomacy. Not warmongering.
GregT on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 12:31 am
I might add; It’ll be interesting, to say the least, to see how this all plays out on the international stage.
EricLarsen on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 12:50 am
Weirdly enough, the two presidents, JFK and Abraham Lincoln, who had tried to abolish the Federal Reserve and nationalize the central bank to print its own money, were both assassinated.
Now THAT is scary! vote Trump!
GregT on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 12:59 am
“JFK and Abraham Lincoln, who had tried to abolish the Federal Reserve and nationalize the central bank to print its own money, were both assassinated.”
Strange that.
MrNoItAll on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 1:12 am
“Gold has been the universal Wampum for millennia…”
In times of economic duress, if you’ve got food to sell, then some of that Wampum will find its way to you.
Or, based on the near impossibility to get .22 long rifle rounds these days, some people are speculating that .22 bullets will join gold and silver as Wampum in the economic collapse future. Five .22 rounds for a tomato? You got a deal!
GregT on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 1:33 am
Glad I’m well stocked up on both. I have 1000 rounds of both Velocitors and Stingers, (they’re the only rounds that cycle my 22 pistol reliably) and around 4000 rounds of Blazers. All bought before the shortage last year for much less than they cost now. I also have several boxes of subsonic. Started stacking both gold and silver bullion back when I was in my thirties. If only I could remember where I put it?
yoananda on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 2:11 am
Yes, petro-otan-dollar collapse is on it’w way.
Why ?
3 Simple reasons :
* shale oil will not last, and may already reach it’s peak
* otan is seen in the world as a threat and is no longer securing oil access
* dedollarization is on it’s way in china
joe on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 4:09 am
in retail as well as stocks and bonds.
‘The fact is, the U.S. has all the signs of a major economic collapse: high unemployment, weak retail sails, 0% interest rates for an extended period of time, huge layoff numbers, no middle class, and high amounts of debt. One can only ignore reality for so long before the bubble completely implodes and slaps one in the face.’
This sentence pretty much sums up everything.
As society ages, the burden will be born by the middle classes who will be expected to pay higher taxes, as the top 20% will only resent the middle class and refuse to pay by lobbying and changing laws to ensure they don’t have to endure the modest increase in taxes needed to pay for the society they helped create when their fathers invested in medical advancements hoping to profit from it, they did, now they have to help pay for the results, or they will pay for the results, got it?
michael on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 7:28 am
Yawn. You wacko conservatives have been screaming THE END OF THE WORLD for 7 years or more and…nada…zip…you’re wrong. First of all who owns the FED. Stop with these conspiracy theories. you know who “owns” the FED and it is not the Jews. The USA nor the world is going to return to the gold standard. All in all you wackos really are slipping into the abyss mentally. When Hilary wins in 2016 you can all take your guns (you do have guns?) and head to the street and start the revolution. You bet there is a civil war coming and you gomers are going to lose again. You people have souls of hate, conspiracy and prejudice that is cancerous. And any person reading this who is a conservative we have you. Yahoo tracks you and then the black helicopters are sent in the night for you to be taken away.
apneaman on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 7:45 am
michael, wacko conservatives gonna save merica.
Abilify for Candidates – SNL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIYEGDJoluc
ghung on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 8:42 am
michael said: “You people have souls of hate, conspiracy and prejudice that is cancerous.”
Who the hell is “you people”, michael? Those of us that don’t paint with broad brushes? Those of us that understand that a number of scenarios could play out, none good, and are positioning ourselves to be prepared for most of them? Those of us who realize that relying on systems run by folks like you is a fools game because you see no value in building resilience into the things you rely on for EVERYTHING?
I’ll also be guilty of painting with a broad brush and state that it’s folks like you that compel me to be what some may call a prepper. Folks that can’t admit that societies invariably reach a point of decline at the same time that they are least prepared, folks who don’t handle sea-changes well at all and run around blaming everyone else for their own lack of foresight and preparations. It’s that combination of hubris and cowardice that compels me to live the way I do; not a lack of situational awareness.
You’re the guy that drives blindly into the snow storm because the 80 car pile-up hasn’t happened yet.
mo on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 8:44 am
Stopped reading as soon as he started on Jfk and Lincoln conspiracy theorys
Anonymouse on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 8:49 am
Well at the very least, we won’t have to worry about immigration as much because we’ll be on track to leveled out with Mexico.
That giant wad of debt that needs to be serviced sooner rather than later, combined with extreme levels of defense spending, compared to the fact that Mexico spends next to nothing on defense/security and controls legal and illicit trade to this country means that it may catch up to us sooner rather than later in terms of living standards and spare incomes.
BobInget on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 9:00 am
Fate of all Western Currencies will be in no small measure be determined at tomorrows’
OPEC meeting.
How will a new, reconfigured OPEC attempt to realign oil prices with realities of restricted supply struggling with burgeoning demand ?
How will Western democracies adapt to
new power structure created of their own
misguided missiles ?
The obvious winners here, China and Russia
are in a very real sense, ‘cornering’ oil and gas markets in one of histories most underrated, underreported coup d’tats.
It may take till the end of this year for most folks to fully understand it but Russia and China are winners of this round.
Davy on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 9:01 am
Anon, you can quit looking at Mexico, US, and Canada. When collapse comes we will likely see viable regions integrate as the nation states dissolve. Location and cultural commonality will prevail over artificial boarders. The one problem northern Mexico and the southwestern US have is drought. I see both areas depopulating.
Davy on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 9:12 am
Bob said “It may take till the end of this year for most folks to fully understand it but Russia and China are winners of this round.”
Bob, you do realize there is more to cornering the oil market than the 20th century great game mentality. There are consequences and unintended consequences to hostile actions with a foundational commodity like oil. There is a need today for all parties that there is a healthy global economy. All parties need to have functioning economies or there will be mass death very quickly. Countries have settled into portions in the global economy with comparative advantages. This is much like an ecosystem in nature.
The US and China are so connected at the hip that any war hot or trade in nature will bring the entire system down with mass death and destruction. China is an export driven economy. There is little room for a decouple on these issues. If China and Russia choose a route of fossil fuel wars that is a slippery slope to global failure. China is much more at risk than Russia. I suspect China will avoid any rash actions considering their economy is very close to collapse especially if the global economy crashes.
apneaman on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 9:13 am
BC, as per usual I did not vote, so no one cam blame me when the new guy/team is revealed as just another puppet show. I did have a little laugh though after reading some conservative canuck commenters this morning lamenting the end of Canada. I’m just glad that I don’t have to look at that stupid fucking hair-doo anymore. Thanks for another great vid of my lady. I’ll get back one day, just you wait and see.
deadlykillerbeaz on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 9:30 am
I don’t care what political persuasion you have, if your a a stupid Republican, good for you, if you are a smart Democrat, good for you.
If the price of a product was 1,500 dollars in 1955 and the same product today is 15,000 dollars, the value of the money, the coin of the realm, is 1/10 of what is was 60 years ago.
You don’t have to be a conservative whacko nor a financial analyst to see a difference.
You have to spend money under all circumstances, it is a very good idea to buy some silver and gold for your own good.
Even if you are a looney liberal, buy some anyway.
Rodster on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 10:44 am
“Rodster, of course they will happen. They are gong to happen eventually no matter what happens to the dollar. So, collapse now and get it over while there is still some ecology left to keep us alive. Who gives a f**k if the globalization disintegrates? Not me.”
Globalization is what keeps the hamster running in the cage. We are at a point that if globalization fails, THE SYSTEM FAILS and you have worldwide anarchy, chaos, violence, governments overthrown, mass starvation, looting etc. And you have the unique possibility that eventually the hairless ape goes bye, bye for good.
The East will not be immune to anything the West will encounter and it’s quite possible that the East will feel the pain far quicker than the West. When there’s no Apple, there’s no Foxconn or any other suppliers who employ millions.
Preparing is far different than surviving because all preparing does is buy time. If you are on a farm, you better have some serious firepower and a capable mini army to back you up because when the hungry zombies come looking for food, they’ll be knocking on the places where they are grown.
And to the person who said, people have been preaching collapse for 7 years and nothing happened. Well you can thank the Fed and US Govt along with Global Central Banks and Global Govt’s in the West and Asia for keeping the Ponzi scheme going. It’s a mathematical certainty the Ponzi scheme will collapse. It’s no longer a matter of “If but When”.
But this time will be different because we happened to lock everyone into the same painted corner. WELCOME TO GLOBALIZATION.
joe on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 11:00 am
When the black death hit Europe it took 150 years to sort everything out, peasants freed themselves from the noose that was the legacy of Rome and they began to question the wisdom of the Roman Church. Much the same will happen again, but this time debt will be the enemy, and it will reap far and wide, but who knows how it will settle.
Rodster on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 11:24 am
“but who knows how it will settle.”
How humans are driving the sixth mass extinction http://www.theguardian.com/environment/radical-conservation/2015/oct/20/the-four-horsemen-of-the-sixth-mass-extinction
Revi on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 12:52 pm
It’s not going to be pretty, but it is already bleak in a lot of places in the US. We need to figure out a way to have an economic system that is not controlled by the banksters. Maybe some kind of trade backed by small silver coins?
ryan on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 8:33 pm
I stopped reading as soon as I saw that the author believed that Abraham Lincoln (b. 2-12-1809 d. 4-15-1865) attempted to abolish the Federal Reserve which was created in 1913. Thanks for revealing your ignorance before I wasted my time reading your drivel.
Mike on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 10:10 pm
Was suspicious about much of this and then read the assertion that “Teddy” Roosevelt ended the Great Depression in 1933. Whoa – warning warning! Take a pass on all of this…
GregT on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 11:07 pm
Great Depression
Turning point and recovery
In most countries of the world, recovery from the Great Depression began in 1933. The common view among most economists is that Roosevelt’s New Deal policies either caused or accelerated the recovery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression
GregT on Tue, 20th Oct 2015 11:25 pm
Reading many of these comments reminds me of this:
What are we celebrating on July the 4th?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyhCOPh48ew
GregT on Wed, 21st Oct 2015 2:36 am
“We need to figure out a way to have an economic system that is not controlled by the banksters.”
Both Lincoln and Kennedy tried Revi. We need more than that. We need people in general to wake up. There is no good reason for exponential growth, other than to feed the most corrupt institutions that the world has ever seen. The comments above are perfect examples of why that will in all likelihood never happen. People in general are ill informed, and not very fucking smart.
Doris Mello on Wed, 21st Oct 2015 11:26 am
All of the above is such valuable information,,,more of us need to be educated and perhaps an economic system could be put in place. One can hope, right?
Davy on Wed, 21st Oct 2015 11:35 am
K
GregT on Wed, 21st Oct 2015 12:15 pm
In order for a new economic system to be put into place, the old economic system would need to be abandoned first. Somehow I don’t see the .0001% at the top of the current system agreeing to this, as they are the ones that have the most to lose. The current system will of course eventually collapse it on it’s own, as is in the very nature of ponzi-schemed systems. I think that it should be fairly obvious that TPTB will do everything to keep the system alive for as long as possible. Don’t expect them to allow the system to collapse from the top down though, it will be dismantled from the bottom up. A continuation of what has already been occurring for the last 40 years. The middle class will be wiped out, while the upper classes continue to amass an even larger percentage of the “wealth”.
“The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from its profits or so dependent on its favors, that there will be no opposition from that class.” Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild
Nancy Ashley on Wed, 21st Oct 2015 2:17 pm
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GregT on Wed, 21st Oct 2015 2:31 pm
“If there was a way you could exchange devaluing dollars into AFFORDABLE, spendable, 24k pure Gold bullion”
There already is way for people to do this. Gold dealers. I would hardly consider gold to be affordable for most, and definitely not spendable. Unless one spends it back at the same said gold dealers.
Most people don’t have the foggiest notion about gold bullion, and quite simply, there isn’t enough gold in the world to replace fiat currencies.
Nancy Ashley on Wed, 21st Oct 2015 2:59 pm
GregT just sayin….. we don’t know what we don’t know. Things change. Take a look at my website! The gold I’m speaking about is from LBMA refineries so it IS currency grade (spendable). And Gold dealers charge fees, don’t have affordable gold, and their 24k gold is in large denominations or minted by a sovereign government, which means it can be easily confiscated by the “owner”, the government who minted it! Some gold dealers have converted over to the gold company I’m speaking about. This gold is privately minted. And I believe there IS enough gold in the world to replace depreciated fiat currencies when the value of THE GOLD exponentially explodes! One article I read, the author projected gold could go to $100,000 an ounce! And, who really knows? No one. But, the company I’m referring to is already in 123 countries and just acquired the location for opening the FIRST all Gold Bank in the world in Dubai!
ghung on Wed, 21st Oct 2015 3:15 pm
“Take a look at my website!”
The website that wants my info to watch a fifteen minute video? No thanks. I can already buy minted 24k gold from several countries at just above spot, in small increments and for a small fee, delivered ‘discreetly’ to my door. Maybe if you throw in a few dozen gross of .22 Stingers, eh?
augjohnson on Wed, 21st Oct 2015 4:49 pm
Stop falling for it, this is one of the “more intelligent” spammers selling gold.
ghung on Wed, 21st Oct 2015 5:02 pm
Quiet, Aug. I was hoping to load up on rimfire rounds 😉
Davy on Wed, 21st Oct 2015 5:16 pm
Aug, but it is nice to have a girl visit us uptight guys now and then.
It is easy to buy physical gold. You can go on eBay. I recommend establishing a relationship with someone local. You may want to sell some back to “your guy” as needed.
I recommend 1/10 oz for preppers. They will make good currency in relation to any purchasing or barter. The oz or small bars are good for the investor. A prepper needs to think more towards the practical and versatile.
Don’t value your gold treat it as any other prepper asset. You have a portfolio of prepper assets and gold and or silver should be in it. Cash is another asset needed in the prepper portfolio.
Storage is an issue. You can keep it in a bank vault but be ready to get it quick in case of a crisis. Don’t tell people you have gold. If you hide it at home disperse it so someone does not get it all in one find. Dont forget where you hid it. The 1/10 oz’s are good for hiding in this manner. They make great money belt items.