U.S. Bombs Iraq

35 Comments on "U.S. Bombs Iraq"

rockman on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 8:41 am 



Not that I disagree with the move but a rather muted effort IMHO: two jets drop a couple of 500 ponders. And ISIS has many hundreds of easy targets…most US equipment. We could just classify it as a big repo job. It’s as if we didn’t want to upset too much. Just giving them a little warning shot to encourage some better behavior on the part of the invading forces?

Perhaps we should subcontract the job to Israel…they have some down time now plus the Muslims already hate them.

Plantagenet on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 9:29 am 



There are many unanswered questions:

Did the Calipate attack Erbil because they saw a YouTube video?
What is supposed to stop the Caliphate from just taking the food that we airdrop to the starving Yazidis?
Is it OK with Obama if The Caliphate beheads and starves and murders people elsewhere in Iraq as long as they don’t do it in Erbil?

westexas on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 9:36 am 



Most observers seem to be shocked that ISIS had a tactical victory over Kurdish forces in Iraq, given that Kurdish forces were generally considered to be the best fighting force in Iraq. And an interesting message from ISIS:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/08/isis-threatens-america-we-will-raise-the-flag-of-allah-in-the-white-house/

ISIS Threatens America: ‘We Will Raise The Flag Of Allah In The White House’

The terror group President Barack Obama threatened to strike in Iraq Thursday evening is itself threatening to strike the American homeland.

“I say to America that the Islamic Caliphate has been established,” Abu Mosa, a spokesman for the terror group known as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), told VICE Media in a video interview posted online Thursday. “Don’t be cowards and attack us with drones. Instead send your soldiers, the ones we humiliated in Iraq.”

“We will humiliate them everywhere, God willing, and we will raise the flag of Allah in the White House,” he added.

Northwest Resident on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 9:53 am 



I spent some time checking out a few Muslim-oriented web sites that had many English articles and comments posted, mixed in with many other comments and articles written in squiggly writing that I can’t read. A big theme in the articles and the comments is that the Muslim world is rising up and it will strike against America and other hated countries, and that the Muslims will in the end prevail and rule the world — in so many words. There is no doubt in my mind that the Christian versus Muslim battle that has always raged through the centuries is STILL raging, just in muted form. It is likely to be un-muted in the near future, and finally get labeled exactly for what it is. I don’t expect it will be a pretty sight, and I don’t expect very many prisoners will be taken. The world is running out of gas and there is no time for such niceties as “rules of engagement” or war crimes tribunals. At some point, not too far in the future, I expect a violent and epic clash. Probably the U.S. Military is letting ISIS grow strong and attract as many of the ME radicals to their ranks as they can right now — all the better to get them concentrated into on area for a big clean-up operation yet to come.

baptised on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 9:56 am 



Now if one piece of USA military equipment is found in Ukraine. Russia should send ISIS, surface to air guided missiles.

Davy on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 9:56 am 



WT, what’s new. The same old worn out bullshit language out of radical Islam. Sounds good to the masses. The reality of the situation is the ISIL arrogance will doom it eventually. There is a point of diminishing returns with these folks. Remember the Taliban in Afghanistan? They went from the best houses to caves in a few months. ISIL may eventually be back to calling the Americans “dogs” because we hunt them down methodically and unrelentingly by asymmetrical means. There are many ways to skin a cat. Anything can happen at this point no doubt but history has proven out that movements like ISIL run a life cycle. Being in the “OIL” hub they are not going to get away with the goose laying the golden egg. Usually when any party tries they are squashed by all the other competing parties. Everyone wants the oil. Afghanistan was a backwater slough the ME is the Mecca of oil and religions.

eugene on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 10:02 am 



Far as I’m concerned it’s the same old bullshit language out of us as well. Far as I’m concerned if you buy into the anti-Muslim stuff, you’re simply playing the US government/media game. In other words, you’re being manipulated. I see absolutely nothing in Christianity or America that is any different.

Davy on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 10:04 am 



NR, I have always been hesitant to visit any Muslim sites because I imagine the NSA filters out any visits and puts that visitor in a folder for future reference. I could be wrong and I hope I am.

Davy on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 10:09 am 



Eugene, what do you think this site specializes in other than PO discussions? The lion share of the discussion that are not oil geology related are criticism and the picking apart of the organs of America. Everything from how fat the people are, how dumb they are becoming, how bad the government is, and the many and various horrible sins never before perpetrated in the history of man. So what is your point?

westexas on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 10:14 am 



Eugene,

Just a small clarification. This was a direct quote from an ISIS spokesman, unless you are accusing the ISIS spokesman of being anti-Muslim shill for the US?

Arthur on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 10:16 am 



Perhaps 5% of those who are going to be killed are indeed ISIS warriors. Expect a lot of family members of innocents who do get killed to join ISIS. Bombing never works, only strengthens the resolve of those bombed.

Northwest Resident on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 10:51 am 



Davy — I’m trying to get put on a no-fly list so I have a good excuse to stop making those damned business trip flights back and forth to SoCal. In any case, I’m not worried about the NSA. They probably have a fat digital folder on me, sitting on some hard drive somewhere, and it is packed full of posts, sites visited, emails, telephone calls, street camera photos, satellite tracking and who knows what other info — all of which proves I am not threat to them or their bosses whatsoever. And I’m sure they’re big fans of the recordings I used to post on YouTube — I’ve got the NSA rocking out!

JuanP on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 10:54 am 



The Pentagon is on the record that they will bomb all future ISIS military convoys headed towards Kurdish territory. They also said they will bomb positions attacking Kurdish territory. Great news for the kurds!

Davy on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 11:02 am 



Yea, NR, my opinion is those people that hide by various means are on their radar screen. The “in the open” folks are not a threat because they are able to be monitored. I just worry about something dark and evil that develops from a collapsing DC mafia with Stasi files. I too expect to be in some 20 something person’s folder at some NSA contractor. Scary to think young kids “20’s”are probably collecting this data.

Davy on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 11:06 am 



Art, bombing work great until the war goes asymmetric like Afganistan. So long as the ISIL is waging conventional out in the open war air power is supreme and always has been. If you throw boots on the ground it can’t be beat. Also Art, these folks are broadcasting beheadings. Tell me does that win hearts and minds?

Davy on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 11:09 am 



Juan, thank God. Kurds are the kind of people you have to feel empathy for. If I was young I would marry a hot Kurdish woman pershmerga. Something about a woman in uniform that is hot.

Northwest Resident on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 11:14 am 



Davy — Yeah, a woman toting a machine gun with a dagger clenched between her teeth and the look of death in her eyes is what turns me on too!

Pveroi on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 11:51 am 



Why is this post even here?

JuanP on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 12:06 pm 



Pveroi, because those bombs were dropped to protect a critical, at this time, oil producing region.

Davy on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 12:07 pm 



Pveroi, because it is part of PO dynamics which covers both above and bellow ground issues of PO. The ISIL crisis is one of the most profound above ground oil issues I have seen for years.

JuanP on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 12:08 pm 



Guys, I am married to a Taekwondo and Thai boxing black belt who is practicing kickboxing at the moment, and is also into stick fighting. I am a lucky guy. 😉

Northwest Resident on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 12:20 pm 



JuanP — Lucky? As in, lucky to be alive and still in one piece? Lucky to not have any broken bones? My girlfriend uses me arm as a punching bag when she gets angry and frustrated. I am very thankful that she doesn’t have the skills and strength that your wife does, or I would be TOAST!

P.S. Taking a half day off and heading directly to Home Depot to get three big bags of vermiculite today. This weekend I’ll harvest my wheat, re-mix the soil with the vermiculite and other soil amendments, plant some spinach/beets/radishes and maybe some cabbage, and we’ll see what sprouts out of the ground.

JuanP on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 12:49 pm 



NWR, I, obviously, have to behave very well on a regular basis. When she got started, like 15 years ago, she had a stage where she used me as a punching bag, too. I am very fast on my feet now, faster than back then. I’ve mastered the art of getting out of the way and being out of reach!
Enjoy your gardening! I think you will notice the benefits of using the vermiculite on your next crop. My seeds are all sprouting ten feet from my computers, a terrible distraction.

shortonoil on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 1:39 pm 



I wonder how many generals it took to pound some brains into the POTU’s head? I don’t think Obama did something intelligent by accident!

Davy on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 2:07 pm 



Short, you are going to get Plant hot and bothered by mentioning the O word.

I agree with you short.

Northwest Resident on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 2:31 pm 



How do we know that it wasn’t the plan to bomb the ISIS beheaders all along, they just wanted to wait for ISIS to show their true colors, develop into something that could be portrayed as a serious threat, and/or maybe just wait until the concentrations of ISIS beheaders made it worth their while to start dropping million$ of dollars worth of ordnance on them? With Obama regularly authorizing drone strikes and other military ops, I doubt that bombing ISIS beheaders was anything more than a “when and how hard” to do it decision.

PrestonSturges on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 2:38 pm 



“…..NR, I have always been hesitant to visit any Muslim sites because I imagine the NSA filters out any visits and puts that visitor in a folder for future reference….”

Yes that was the gist of last weeks articles about the expanding watch lists, That’s it EXACTLY.

PrestonSturges on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 2:40 pm 



Cue the Republican ankle-biters second guessing and criticizing!

Marco Rubio looks like he’s playing with little green plastic army men and still dreaming getting that first X-Box so he can play Call Of Duty like a big boy.

paulo1 on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 3:06 pm 



I hope they put on hold the A-10 warthog slated retirement. Perfect tool for the job of pounding a square head into a round hole in the desert.

Usually I am totally against US excess, but in this case I can imagine it is high time for air strikes.

Paulo

Arthur on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 3:12 pm 



“Art, bombing work great until the war goes asymmetric like Afganistan.”

How do you know, who is who? The war IS assymmetric. A10 warthogs against pickup trucks. Everybody there has a pickup truck.

PrestonSturges on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 3:13 pm 



Actually this is the perfect territory and targets for drones – gun trucks moving across thousands of miles of open terrain. Severing ground communication across vast areas will greatly diminish ISIS.

Davy on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 3:34 pm 



Art, until the ISIL go underground, guerrilla, and asymmetric they are very vulnerable to air power. Conventional, advanced, heavy weapons are hard to move/hide especially in quantity. ISIL is doing traditional conventional attacks because they have freedom of movement. Like PS says air power will greatly diminish ISIL current strategy,

PrestonSturges on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 4:33 pm 



And we have drones capable of delivering JDAM bombs, and they have better loiter time over the target than our jets. I’m guessing it’s just DoD politics that keeps the F18s in the are, because the Air Force and Navy don’t want to lose the funding for piloted planes.

The A10s might action if one of our jets get shot down and there is a mission to rescue a pilot. Then the A10s would be need to provide close air support until help arrives. Where would they be coming from?

Makati1 on Fri, 8th Aug 2014 8:28 pm 



The Us hasn’t won a war in 70 years and this one is no different. A lot of innocent lives wasted on making more profits for the Military Industrial Complex. Attila the Hun would be envious.

Norm on Sat, 9th Aug 2014 12:20 am 



i heard the Warthog is difficult to fly, cause if you pull the trigger very long its blasting so many bullets that you lose all your forward airspeed (conservation of momentum).

Looks like now the pilots will get plenty of practice.