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Thorium Reactors: Nuclear Redemption or Nuclear Hazard?

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Could thorium be the faltering nuclear industry’s salvation — or is it a mirage? Is the U.S. missing an immense energy opportunity?

“We should be trying our best to develop the use of thorium,” former UN weapons inspector Hans Blix recently told BBC News. “I am told that thorium will be safer in reactors – and it is almost impossible to make a bomb out of thorium.”

Thorium is up to 200 times more energy dense than uranium and as common as lead. It could be a safer, cheaper nuclear fuel, GTM reported shortly after the 2011 Fukushima disaster: “China, India, Japan, France, Russia and the U.S. are all currently developing thorium-based reactors.”

Yet thorium-based nuclear power is still a hypothesis. Maybe because, Blix noted, besides the technical obstacles, there is a multi-billion dollar uranium-based nuclear industry “backed by vested interests.”

“Uranium, which is much better for making bombs, took over the stage” during World War II, explained SuperFuel author and thorium advocate Richard Martin on NPR’s Science Friday last year. Thorium was “pushed aside.”

It could be coming back. India, with the world’s biggest thorium resource, is committed to a program using “thorium compounds as breeder fuel to produce more uranium.” It plans to get “30 percent of its electricity from thorium reactors by 2050,” according to the November Economist.

China is developing “a next-generation reactor which its supporters say will enable thorium to be used much more safely than uranium,” BBC News said. And Norway’s Thor Energy is developing thorium technology through an “evolutionary approach” that will use thorium “in existing reactors together with uranium or plutonium.”

TerraPower, backed by Microsoft billionaires Bill Gates and Nathan Myhrvold, is a uranium-based small modular reactor (SMR) technology that reuses stockpiled nuclear waste.  The NY Times recently called it  “a very long term bet.”

Thorium technologies fit the nuclear industry’s move toward SMRs. Flibe Energy’s modular liquid-fluoride thorium reactor (LFTR) and “known thorium reserves” could supply “advanced society for many thousands of years,” according to a Flibe fact sheet.

LFTR’s external nuclear chain reaction also reuses stockpiled nuclear waste and safely eliminates the need for containment vessels because it shuts down automatically if there is a disruption. Thorium is cheaper and more efficient than uranium and LFTR modular reactors would be mass produced cost effectively, use less water, and provide waste heat and marketable byproducts.

Nobel laureate and former CERN Director Carlo Rubbia leads advocacy for an alternative accelerator-driven system (ADS) thorium technology that would give thorium “absolute pre-eminence” over other fuels, Rubbia said recently. Norwegian nuclear industry player Aker Solutions purchased Rubbia’s patents earlier this year and is investing $1.8 billion in their development.

ADS could, according to Jefferson Laboratory Associate Director Andrew Hutton, “transform the landscape of the waste-disposal and storage problem.”  It is minimally radioactive, shuts down automatically, and offers “proliferation resistance.”

Thorium does not resolve nuclear power’s proliferation and waste issues, Institute for Energy and Environmental Research President Dr. Arjun Makhijani responded to Martin on the NPR program last year. Pure uranium-233 can be derived from the molten salt coming out of thorium reactors “which is easier to make bombs with than plutonium.” And the waste, Makhijani added, contains carcinogenic radioactive materials.

Deriving U-233, Martin said, is “virtually impossible, even for a sophisticated nuclear power lab, much less for a rogue nation, or terrorist group.” Thorium reactors do create waste, he acknowledged. But they use stockpiled waste as a starter, their waste is “tenths of a percent of the comparable volume from a conventional reactor,” and its half-life is “a few hundred years as opposed to tens of thousands of years.”

Dr. Alvin Weinberg, the “guru” of thorium nuclear technology, called it a “Faustian bargain” and said it was “a great energy source, but you’ve got to worry about proliferation and waste,” Makhijani replied.

“OK, you have concerns about thorium-based nuclear power,” Martin replied. “But what is the answer? Renewables are not going to solve our problem in the time scales that we need it, in the next 30 to 50 years.” The choice is between “an innovative form of nuclear power” and “a three-degree-Celsius rise in global temperatures over the next 50 years.”

My reactor is free. It’s in the sky, 93 million miles away. You can store its energy in molten salt. It is being done today. You can generate electricity for 24 hours a day,” Makhijani answered.

Even with extensive investment in thorium technology, he said, it would take ten years to build the infrastructure and ten more to put regulation in place. “I did an honest, unbiased look, not thinking we could do renewable energy. And I found out that my hunch was wrong: We can do 100 percent renewable energy.”

Thorium will not happen in the United States “because of the licensing issues,” Martin agreed. It is happening in China, India, and Western Europe. “The thorium revival is inevitable. The question is whether the United States is going to be a follower or a leader.”

“Let them raise venture capital and do it,” said Vermont Law School Institute for Energy and the Environment nuclear economics researcher Mark Cooper. “I have low carbon and no carbon technologies whose costs have been coming down and they can keep the lights on. In 25 years I am likely to have a whole range of cost effective ways to keep the lights on that evolve from the current set of technologies.”

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6 Comments on "Thorium Reactors: Nuclear Redemption or Nuclear Hazard?"

  1. BillT on Wed, 11th Dec 2013 1:29 am 

    “Let them raise venture capital and do it,”

    I totally agree! Stop using government (tax) money to fund techie black holes. If it is profitable, there will be lines of investors. If it is not, it should die now.

  2. DC on Wed, 11th Dec 2013 2:21 am 

    I vote for mirage. Thorium fuel-cycles might have all the virtues its proponents claim, or it may have none of them. No one knows because thorium reactors dont exist. And no one has spare hundreds of billions lying around to test the theory of thoriums claims. Remember fast-breeder reactors? The claims and promises made by them sound almost exactly the same as the ones made by the thorium fan-boys.That is to say, to-good-to-be-true. If you go back and read all the hopium spewed over FBR’s you would have thought those were the answer to all our nuclear prayers. Well, FB reactors turned out to have their own sets of problems(big ones), and the tech never really went anywhere.

    But, thats the progress narrative right? If todays tech has ‘problems’ there is always some ‘new’ tech’ that is just around the corner that will make all the problems of the ‘old’ go to that magical, whimsical place.
    Away.

  3. deedl on Wed, 11th Dec 2013 7:10 am 

    Thorium will not beat renwables due to the econmics of scale. Compare the complexity of a pv-array or a wind turbine with the complexity of a nuclear thorium reactor. Now think how many reactors you need to supply a medium sized country and how many pv-arrays/wind turbines you need.

    You cannot use mass production to produce complex and large nuclear power stations, no matter wether they are based on thorium or uranium. Their number is simply to small to get assembly lines running (on average there are today some 2 nuclear plants per country, for going 100% nuclear their number would rise to just 10 per country).

    Renewables on the other hand can be produced on grand scale. Look on PV-arrays. It is the same simple panel repeated as often as you require it. You can put three panels on your hut or ten thousand in the desert. Look at wind parks: a windpark with the plate capacity of a nuclear plant consists of several hundred turbines, the same simple mass produced structeres repeated again and again.

    To get some numbers to this, the only nucler reactor currently build in europe is in Olkiluoto, Finland. It is a 1,6 GW reactor whichs costs now run into 8,5 billion euro. For german onshore windpower the current investment price is one million euro per MW plate capacity. Divide this with a capacity factor of 20% and you could have gotten 1,7 GW of wind power for the same money.

    So the upfront cost for renewables are today just below the upfront costs of conventional nuclear (and still sinking!). No thorium will ever be as cheap and wind sun, so full lifecycle cost will be even higher for any nuclear option. So thorium will never be econmiclly viable, no matter how exciting it may look on paper.

    Last economic issue is building time. A nuclear reactor takes ten years to build (finland was started in 2005 and is supposed to go onlnie 2016). The same capacity of renewables can be installed in a year, since wind turbines and solar panels are basically off the shelves products. So you get for reenwables a much quicker return for your investement than with nuclear.

    Money follows the easiest path, and this is not thorium. It is renewables.

  4. DC on Wed, 11th Dec 2013 8:32 am 

    That reactor in Finland has been plagued by cost-overruns, costly delays and labor and legal problems, you name it. Its 5 years behind schedule already and knows what will happen there in the next few years. IoW, standard stuff for reactors ‘they’ know to build. I even heard stories some of the sub-contractors had mafia ties lol! Even nukes are being assembled by the mob.

    I can only imagine how long it would take to toss a thorium reactor together that no one has any real experience with, well, out of classroom experience that is.

    Too funny.

  5. Arthur on Wed, 11th Dec 2013 10:15 am 

    It is too late for thorium, whatever it’s potential merits. We have an alternative that actually works now and shows agressive growth rates all over the planet. Maybe next century.

  6. drwater on Wed, 11th Dec 2013 7:34 pm 

    “Thorium fuel-cycles might have all the virtues its proponents claim, or it may have none of them. No one knows because thorium reactors dont exist. And no one has spare hundreds of billions lying around to test the theory of thoriums claims.”

    Actually there were several thorium reactors running decades ago. The Oak Ridge, TN and Shippingport, PA reactors were very successful in terms of their objectives. The Shippingport reactor was a converted small commercial reactor, generating 60 MWe and ultimately produced over 2.1 billion kilowatt hours of electricity.

    While it would be great to have mostly renewables for generation, I suspect thorium reactors could be valuable for base load. Coal is a disaster, and natural gas will only get us so far.

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