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The peak oil theory remains one of the most controversial developments in our nation’s discussion over energy policy. Unfortunately, though, not too many understand about it. How might peak oil be explained?
Speaking of oil, this is a resource that many worry is being depleted. Are these concerns valid?
In this second part of our discussion, Richard Heinberg, one of today’s foremost advocates for energy sustainability, shares his views regarding these subjects. He also explains about his life and career.
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Joseph F. Cotto: Should America continue to invest in nuclear energy? Or, are the drawbacks of nuclear power too great?
Richard Heinberg: Back in March 2012 The Economist magazine published an extensive special report on the future of nuclear energy, which it titled “The Dream that Failed.” The authors concluded that while nuclear generation capacity is likely to grow in China and a few other nations, elsewhere (including Europe, Japan, and the U.S.) it is declining and nuclear’s role is likely to “never be more than marginal.” I thought that was a good, objective assessment. The investment requirement for nuclear is enormous, and, in an economy where credit and investment capital are scarce and the government is looking for programs to cut, there’s just no realistic pathway to grow the industry.
Of course there are other problems with this energy source, as the Japanese have painfully discovered. New technologies—such as thorium reactors—might theoretically reduce some of the risks, but we’re decades away from widespread implementation even if pilot plants turn out to work as hoped.
Cotto: Many claim that America should continue using fossil fuels due to cost efficiency. In the long run, are fossil fuels really cost efficient?
Heinberg: Coal is still cheap—if you consider only the direct cost of the fuel and ignore all environmental and health “externalities.” Once you factor in the indirect costs to society, coal turns out to be quite expensive! I co-authored a “full lifecycle analysis” last year (“Mining Coal, Mounting Costs: The Life Cycle Consequences of Coal”). If costs from lung disease, climate change, land disturbance, etc., are all factored in, the cost of electricity from coal per kilowatt-hour rises dramatically, easily exceeding that of wind.
But those are dollar costs. There is also an energy cost to energy production, and that is crucial in many instances. It takes energy to mine tar sands, frack shale, or drill a deepwater oil well. In the early days of the oil and gas industry—when geologists were chasing large, shallow, onshore deposits—the energy returned on energy invested in exploration and production was astronomical, better than 100 to 1 in many cases. Today that ratio is declining rapidly—it’s less than 5:1 for many unconventional oil and gas plays. Long before we get to a 1:1 ratio, the costs of production will mount and companies will start trying to make ends meet by selling off drilling leases, arbitrage, and creative accounting. In fact, we’re already seeing that kind of behavior. This evidence suggests that fossil fuels are losing their “cost efficiency” quite rapidly.
Cotto: Today, understanding about peak oil is tremendously important. Generally speaking, how would you describe the peak oil theory?
Heinberg: “Peak Oil” is just an extrapolated observation. Production from every oil well and oil field starts low, ramps up, reaches a maximum, and then declines over time. U.S. oil production peaked in 1970, and since then many other nations have gone into decline; many former exporters have become oil importers as a result. Inevitably total world oil production will peak and start to decline. In that sense, just about everybody who knows anything about the petroleum business is a Peak Oil believer. The only dispute is whether the peak will happen sooner (the next couple of years) or later (in 20 years or more).
In my view, the evidence stacks in favor of a near-term peak. While the industry is bringing more production on line, it’s barely able to make up for declines in existing fields. And the newer production is from marginal sources that require more investment of capital and energy. Yes, there’s a lot more oil in the Earth’s crust, but since the beginning of the industry we’ve gone about extracting petroleum using the low-hanging fruit principle. What’s left in many cases will take more energy to extract than it will yield when burned. In short, I believe we’re seeing the near-term Peak Oil scenario unfold right before our eyes.
Cotto: Is oil depletion a problem that we are likely to face in the foreseeable future?
Heinberg: We’re facing it right now! The high oil prices of the past few years are not primarily due to speculation, but to depletion of the cheap-to-produce oil that fueled economic growth in the 20th century. Today the industry needs high prices—in the range of $90 to $100 per barrel—to justify developing new production capacity in deepwater, tar sands, and tight (fracked) reservoirs. Meanwhile we’ve learned over the past few decades that when prices stray into the $100 region for very long, the economy stalls or contracts.
Now, I’m not suggesting that oil prices will never fall. They will if demand crashes because of weakness in the broader economy. What we won’t see again are low oil prices in the context of a growing economy and growing demand. That means that, effectively, oil prices have become a governor on economic growth. And with each passing year, as the low-hanging fruit of conventional oil resources are burned, the dial clicks one more notch in the direction of zero growth.
A lot of people will say, “What’s the problem? Technology can work wonders. Just look at the increasing production from the Bakken shales in North Dakota!” But fracking / horizontal drilling technology has been around for decades; the only reason it’s being used in the Bakken is that high oil prices can justify it. These are unconventional resources that the oil industry wouldn’t bother with if it had any decent plays to pursue. Per-well decline rates are very high and the Montana portion of the Bakken is already seeing falling production; the North Dakota portion will likely follow shortly.
Depletion is relentless and it leads to the problem of declining resource quality, for which technology is only a partial solution.
Cotto: Now that our discussion is at its end, many readers are probably wondering how you came to be an advocate for sustainable energy policy. Tell us a bit about your life and career.
Heinberg: I’m just a writer who long ago realized that our society’s rates of growth in population and consumption are patently unsustainable. The historical reasons for this are obvious: our ability to extract and use fossil fuels gave us the Industrial Revolution and all that went with it. In pursuing a better understanding of energy, I got to know quite a few petroleum geologists, coal-mining engineers, solar researchers, and other energy scientists and economists. These folks have a story to tell, one that’s often quite different from the PR line delivered by the front office of the company they work for. I realized that our energy future is fraught with challenges that are being ignored or actively denied by policy makers.
Also during this time, I got to know quite a few environmental scientists who are genuinely frightened about the impacts they’re seeing on climate and ecosystems resulting from society’s use of fossil fuels. Many of these people are losing funding for their research projects, or receiving death threats from confused individuals who’ve been driven to a frenzy by the steady drumbeat of climate-change denialist propaganda churned out by industry-backed fake grass-roots organizations.
I’m not a petroleum geologist; I’m a generalist and a critical researcher. I merely attempt to translate the work of genuine energy and environmental experts into terms that, hopefully, the average person can understand, so that we can all make better sense of this extraordinary moment of history.
8 Comments on "Asking Richard Heinberg: Is the world running out of oil?"
BillT on Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 1:31 am
Nothing new here.
We hit the peak.
Prices cannot drop in a good economy. Fraking is a bad joke.
There will be oil left when we stop recovering it because it would take too much energy to recover it.
Arthur on Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 8:12 am
I am convinced that peak conventional oil is a reality now. Not entirely sure about unconventional:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/bild-833501-352453.html
Hope to get more clearity about that in the coming months.
EarthProjects.info on Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 11:27 am
From http://earthprojects.info
David Demshur Chairman President CEO Core Laboratories
From his talk at Enercom August 2012 (17th annual) Denver, Colorado USA
“…Many of you know that we are peak oil guys and we believe that we are at the plateau in what the globe is going to be able to produce annually. We will be able to stay at this plateau for the next 3 or 4 years. We use about a 2 1/2% net decline curve rate every year. So we need to replace about 2.3 million barrels of production every year, and we think we can do that over the next 3 or 4 years, but inevitably we will, the globe will go into decline…”
Earth Projects is leading global leaders to sustainability with 40 global initiatives that inform & involve individuals, communities, industries & nations in projects resolving 40 global issues (#1 Mitigate peak oil food chain meltdown: 2015).
Arthur on Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 12:04 pm
Oil yes, but there is still gas. I would almost say: unfortunately, as the environmental side effects are horrendous.
Kenz300 on Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 2:00 pm
Quote — ” I’m just a writer who long ago realized that our society’s rates of growth in population and consumption are patently unsustainable. ”
“Coal is still cheap—if you consider only the direct cost of the fuel and ignore all environmental and health “externalities.” Once you factor in the indirect costs to society, coal turns out to be quite expensive! If costs from lung disease, climate change, land disturbance, etc., are all factored in, the cost of electricity from coal per kilowatt-hour rises dramatically, easily exceeding that of wind.”
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Population growth needs to slow to replacement levels. Adding 80 million more mouths to feed every year in a finite world is not sustainable.
We are slowly destroying the environmental systems we all need to survive. This must come to an end.
Safe, clean alternative energy sources are the future.
BillT on Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 3:32 pm
Kenz, a few well placed nukes will stop the population growth in it’s tracks and give a lot of work to morticians and healthcare workers. Who will trow the first one? THAT is the only question. We used the tow on Japan only to show that we were the new dog on the block and in charge. It worked. Who is the next ‘big dog’? After all, there are now at least 9 and maybe more.
Arthur on Tue, 23rd Oct 2012 3:50 pm
Nobody is foolish enough to throw the first bomb. If a device explodes it will be done by ‘terrorists’, meaning a false flag operation, creating the pretext for a totalitarian society the world has not witnessed before, with the US being the prime candidate for such a society. Maybe Orwell was right with his prediction:
http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/1984_fictious_world_map.png
… and this meeting place could be history, from day to the other.
They have done it with 9/11, they could do it again, for instance as a flight forward, if the truth about 9/11 threatens to come out. They have the bombs to do it.
SOS on Wed, 24th Oct 2012 6:09 pm
Unconventional oil and conventional oil are the same thing. North Dakota is now over 700,000 barrels/day of the finest crude you can find. Thats an increase of 40% in the last 6 months despite the EPAs best efforts to slow things down or stop them completely. It wont happen in North Dakota. The Native Tribes, The Great State of North Dakota and the Oil Men are in league together. The feds and the lawyers are locked out.